On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Marius Roets <roets.mar...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Dale,
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Dale Hards <dale.ha...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Once again, well done on a fantastic piece of software. SCID is easily my
>> favourite open-source software, and I use it a lot.
>>
>> I was hoping someone on the mailing list could point me in the direction
>> of a good free and legal (ie not plagiarised material) PGN for an opening
>> database, from either white/black/both perspective. I've done some pretty
>> extensive Googling over the last few weeks, and found a few leads but
>> nothing came to any luck. I've heard of the Chess Analysis Project and
>> downloaded all the a-opening PGNs but found they were just games ordered by
>> ECO.
>>
> Would you mind explaining your intended use. Since this is not clear, I'm
> not sure what would be an opening database.
>
I already have a number of databases, including one of about 2 million games
all of players at or over 2200 ELO. The quality of this database is good,
but I want to be able to use a database in the Training > Openings feature.
When I load any database of this number of games into this feature the
indicator tells me it will take over 300 hours to load.
This is why I was mistaken about what an opening database is. Given that it
takes so long I made a perhaps natural assumption that an opening database
must be different to a set of full games. I realise now that this was very
wrong.
>
>
>>
>> I imagine an opening database to be a collection of openings not a
>> collection of games. Is this correct?
>
> Well then I can ask, at what point does an opening seize to be an opening
> and become a game. If you are only looking for ECO openings, SCID already
> has an ECO browser with an extended set of ECO openings. If you want more
> than that it sort of becomes more like having a games database. Once again,
> how you intend to use it determines what you want.
>
I have used the ECO browser but I don't think this can be used in the same
way as the Training > Openings feature does.
>
>
>> Any pointers to an appropriate download would be very much appreciated.
>> The opening trainer is one of the few features in SCID I have yet to use
>>
>
> When I started to use SCID many years ago I was looking for the same thing,
> and found a massive PGN base on Bob Wyatt's Crafty ftp site. I think it is
> used for Crafty's opening book. I don't know if it's there anymore. I ended
> up never using it because I realized after a while that it is not really
> useful for a human as much as for a machine.
>
> HTH
> Marius
>
Thanks Marius for your reply.
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