Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi!
> It is. It is just a popular name anyway. VIAF lists 827 > persons of that name. And VIAF is only built for persons who > published some book or the like... > > > I did not know about VIAF. I don't wonder ;) > Great stuff ! I know. > What I mean is that there is no sense to spellcheck a big > file if there is all these decisions to make by hand. If > we have a tournament file with the names of the players, > that kind of correction would really be a spellcheck, not > a second-guessing game for too much names. Sure. > What you suggest would be to build up a database of all > tournaments and their participants. > Exactly, like Franz does for players' names. It should be consistent > with his work, because the main idea would be to complement them. Right. However, for it to work you need a key for the tournament and a key for each person. It does not make sense to add ambigious namings to such a thing at all. > Well, working within a central database would be in fact the > only way to go. But you suggest to build up an authority > file (or registry if you prefer that naming) for all chess > games of the world. Even if you just start out with > important tournaments of the past and work through them, > this is a huge effort. > > Exactly. In fact, once you have this tool at hand, working on a central > database does not seem that crazy anymore... Sure. Building up such a db, however, is a huge job. > But I don't see any solution to the lack of information, > except trying to build a tournament file that would be > orthogonal to a file of chessplayers' names. > > Acutally, the real solution would be something like VIAF. > > That would be the final step. For now, a text file cross-indexing > tournaments and players would simplify a lot spellcheck. No, you'd have to build it up that way. Like we do with books. You start out with what you have at hand: a game. Then you identify the tournament and set up an authority record for that one containing a name, probably the date it took place and so on, enough information ot make it a real individualized recored. And you assign it an identifier. Then you identify the persons involved. You idividualize them using person authority records you have at hand already or your create a new one if the person is not known to your system. The latter again contains enough information to individualize each person. You assign again an identifier. (For persons using VIAF-ID, if it exists, is strongly recommended). Finally, you hook up the game to your tournament. Thats what we do for decades in this book business. It is a viable way to deal with such things. > I don't miss that point. It's just that I like bottom-up > approaches. The above IS the bottom up approach. Point is: you've to start out with what you have. Be it a book or a game of chess is exchangeable. > You might want to unfold the MARC-21 section, check > out the 400's and 700's, just to get an idea about the > spellings for his name. And just to get a vague idea > about the size of the project you might just call up > http://viaf.org to see who is participating in this > game. And it's only about the names part... (Plus > using databases of books we already have in huge > databases built by autopsy using trained personel. > Creating such a catalogue record for one book from > scratch takes about 15min on the average.) This is > just too good to be true ! No, it's plain reality ;) > Debate is over. I know that I'm right and I've quite > some forces behind me. ;) LoC, BNB, DNB, BNF (just to > name the really big ones) can't be wrong. > > The debate about being right is not the important one : > the important one is how to implement the idea in Scid's > maintainance window... ;-) Second order. Build a database of the above structure, and a way will be found. This is "only" about coding. The hard thing is to get such a DB done. -- Kind regards, / War is Peace. | Freedom is Slavery. Alexander Wagner | Ignorance is Strength. | | Theory : G. Orwell, "1984" / In practice: USA, since 2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Scid-users mailing list Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scid-users
