Greg,
Your idea and intentions about improving lsb are great, and I'm not
saying there isn't a need for it (there is, and separate
lsb-desktop/server/mobile lists is a good idea), but I don't agree
with the basic premise that lsb is the cause of package bloat in RHEL.
Following the requirements of redhat-lsb to three levels (what does
it require, what provides those requirements, what do those rpms
require, etc), I get a list of 121 rpms (that does not include isdn or
bluetooth by the way). In fact, the list only has 7 rpms that are on
Ken's don't-install list of 43. One of those is redhat-lsb itself.
(The others are cups, freetype, libjpeg, libpng, libtiff and pax).
I don't get the sense that RedHat gets it, or perhaps doesn't yet see
a business case for offering a minimal, hardened option or product of
some kind. From my perspective, it seems like GM being a little slow
to perceive that fuel-efficient cars might just be a good idea. No
doubt for a majority of customers, 'sensible security', as RedHat
determines it, is good enough. The rest of us are in cahoots with the
crack-addled snake oil salesmen anyway. ;-)
-Ed
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