All points well taken, I wasn't trying to draw absolutes,
just generalities.
I was trying to say that there are plenty of people I
would trust the operation of my employers
enterprise LINUX server infrastructure with confidence,
whom I am sure could not pass the RHCE if they just
walked in to the exam room on the morning of an RHCE exam.
And, by the same token, there are a few people I know who
passed the RHCE on the first try, to whom I wouldn't trust
to manage my workstation.
I agree with you that:
"And second, IMHO any certificate is good only
to shut up people who do not know better."
-Ben.
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 20:16, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Ben Russo wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > A person who is a UNIX guru, and knew PC hardware well,
> > could take the RHCE and pass it *IF* he just had more time
> > to take the EXAM.
>
> Maybe, maybe not. There are things which are very Linux
> (and PC) specific. E.g. the bootloaders. And various other
> Unix flavors differ quite significantly among them. What Unix
> systems are you talking about ? All of them ?
>
> > A person who knows RedHat on PC hardware extremely well,
> > might pass the RHCE exam,
>
> That's basically the idea of the exam. Isn't it ?
>
> > but not be able to impress me as a System Admin.
>
> OK, what does then impress you ? :-)
>
> > There were several people I know very well who are
> > *Damn-Good* Sys-Admins with 20 years of experience
> > and who can write GUI X-windows Games in standard C code
>
> This is IMHO definitely not a required skill for a sysadmin.
>
> > in their sleep that couldn't pass that RHCE exam.
> >
> > There were also people in the exam with me who had no
> > real enterprise experience at all, but who had worked with
> > their workstation and home firewall on PC hardware for
> > a year or two and studied hard and aced the exam.
>
> Any "exam" will be limited in scope due to their time restrictions.
>
> So first, ask yourself what that piece of paper wants to prove ?
>
> And second, IMHO any certificate is good only to shut up people
> who do not know better.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Ryurick M. Hristev mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computer Systems Manager
> University of Canterbury, Physics & Astronomy Dept., New Zealand
>
>
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