Ed Wilts said:

> What can we say?  When you're right, you're right.  There are no good open
> source translators out there - not even for MS Word.  Every one I've
> tested failed on trivial documents, and I gave up.  Not even
> StarOffice on Windows was anywhere close to usable a couple of months ago
> and I bought Office XP for my home systems.

what can one expect? when MS themselves cannot make their own
shit compadible with their own shit :) I've read lots of stories
about MS word on win32 docs not being able to open on MS office on
mac, or vise versa, a more extreme example, a few months ago a former
co worker was writing his resume in word 2000, About half the people
he sent the resume to could not open it(despite all of them running
word 2000). And this guy was no idiot, he was/is a very smart guy who
has a lot of experience on MS platforms(and other platforms as well. Even a
couple people in the same office(using the same MS office cd to install),
had
problems opening the document! While others, had no problems. In the end he
had to use some $500 software package to export his document to PDF(maybe
there was another way but thats what he chose). Meanwhile I provide my
resume(being unemployed too) in .DOC, .TXT(CRLF & LF), .PDF, .PS, .HTML, .RTF,
and .SXW and never had a problem:) of course it was written in star office
6(though I do admit I had to do some changes to the HTML version to make it
have better formatting, even though it was easily readable it wasn't as
clean). I purchased staroffice 6 to show support for open office, its easier
for me then filing bug reports(and I cannot program).

I agree that compadiblity with MS documents is important, but if the
company who makes it(I'm sure some quick google searches will turn
up hundreds of results like the time I think they released an update
to office 97 so it could write documents readable in office 95)
can't accomplish the task of making a portable document format accross their
very own products, how can anyone else expect to achieve 100% compadibility?

I think longer term, the solution is not to work with them, but
design a good open format. But before we even try to impose this
format on the rest of the world, the open source/free software
suites need to support it fully. Sofar I haven't noticed any
activivies on the parts of openoffice/staroffice, koffice, abiword,
and others to even start on such a format unfortunately. And no
XML by itself isn't good enough, all XML is a buncha tags, it can't
be decoded and displayed right unless everyone knows what all the
tags mean. I mean, Zope can export my websites to XML, fat chance
that I'll be able to load them in openoffice though!

I look forward to that day, if it ever comes!

despite all that though I still love linux and have been MS-free
for more then 4 years, after having used their stuff for more then 8
years.

nate





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