I just want to say thanks for all the tips everyone has given me on purchasing a server! I haven't had the chance to run out and get one just yet, though - work is crazy right now, deadlines, etc, etc. (I also wasn't expecting such a fast response to my question, either.) Thanks again, I really do appreciate the advice. -Brian
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: redhat-list digest, Vol 1 #5871 - 12 msgs Send redhat-list mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of redhat-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: rh8 and speed (greg) 2. Re: Personal Server Specification Recommendations (John Nichel) 3. Re: SSH question2 (=?iso-8859-1?q?linux=20power?=) 4. Re: dns question (Mike Burger) 5. Re: RedHat 8.0 vs. Intel ISP 2150 (Samuel Flory) 6. Re: wine in general (my 2 cents) (Manuel Camacho) 7. Re: rh8 and speed (Julius Smith) 8. Re: out of office problem..... (Joseph A Nagy Jr) 9. Re: SSH question.SOLVED thanks Bret. (=?iso-8859-1?q?linux=20power?=) 10. Re: printing messed up (Paul Campbell) 11. Re: dns question (Michael Schwendt) 12. RE: mr petrie is history - [[but should he really be?]] (Mike Burger) --__--__-- Message: 1 Subject: Re: rh8 and speed From: greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16 Nov 2002 07:38:05 +1100 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When I go into the system monitor program, where it gives me a list of running prgrams, there are only two programs that are using system resources constantly, they are gnome system monitor (the program I am using to view the stats), and X. X is reported as using 79.6m of memory, and with regard to %cpu, all I have to do is use the scoll bar on any particular window, and the %cpu figure goes up from 4% to nearly 50% without doing anything else. Just moving the scroll bar! System monitor does the same thing, but uses less cpu%, but between the two, moving a scroll bar uses up 50%+26% = 76%. Everything else is using 0% cpu, and much smaller ammounts of memory. Total memory usage stats are 236m of 249 (with the system just loaded and my email program open, and system monitor, and swap usage = 0 of 2.1 gig. So it is not using the swap yet, but still running very slow. Greg On Sat, 2002-11-16 at 03:14, Jack Bowling wrote: > ** Reply to message from Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:32:23 > +1100 > > > > Also, one more note on speed. Multitasking programs is a no go with RH > > it seems at the moment. If I try to load two programs at the same time, > > it slows down so much it is not funny. An example might be loading > > browser/email prgrams at the same time. Or, another, if I am doing a > > file search on the hard drives, and I try to load another program, the > > other program will take 50+ times longer to do anything. > > Greg - Do a CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to your login window. Is there a "runaway" > process spewing stuff on the screen? If so, try to determine what it is and try > to "kill -9" it One of the first things I do after an install is to kill > magicdev. It eats up a disproportionate amount of cpu cycles. > > jb > > -- > Jack Bowling > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > redhat-list mailing list > unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:05:48 -0600 From: John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: By-Tor.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Personal Server Specification Recommendations Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Take a look at the Red Hat hardware list. With the exception of my laptop (RH7.3), all my other machines were custom built, so there is no "brand name" for them (3 RH 7.3, and 1 RH 7.2). They all have AMD socket 7 processors (1 233Mhz, 3 500Mhz's). They all have a mixture of Kingston, All Components, and generic memory. All the IDE drives are IBM, and one of the machines has two Segate SCSI drives. Plextor burners, and Acer CD-ROMs. Asus and Abit motherboards. One Matrox (AGP), one Diamond (PCI), and two generic video cards (AGP). All of them have D-Link nic's. Most hardware runs fine, as long as you steer clear of intergrated motherboards with Intel chipsets, and WinModems. As far as running your own webserver, you can do it a couple of ways. Give the box a bogus IP (I use my birthdate followed by .1, .2, .3, etc.). Once you have apache installed, configed, and running, edit your hosts file (C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts on WinNT / 2000, /etc/hosts on Linux) with the ip and name of the box.... 99.99.99.1 myWebServer Now the box which you edited the hosts file on will be able to hit the webserver (you can also do this with virtual hosts in apache). Now, you can get a bit more complex, and run your own DNS machine, and make up your own domain names (but please set notify to "no" in your named.conf file for all your made up zones). I have my little network set up to where two of the 500Mhz machines are my primary and secondary DNS servers, the other 500Mhz machine is my gateway. I have a couple of domains which are hosted by someone else, but I keep mirrored (dev) sites of them here locally (on the gateway machine), and have zones set up on my DNS machines to point to them. Viewable to the world Viewable to just my local network www.by-tor.com www.by-tor.jcn www.nichel.net www.nichel.jcn But you don't need a domain to do this. I also run domains here locally with names that don't exist on the web, but with a zone file, I can access them locally. The first way will be the easiest, and will work just fine (I'm only set up the second way because I like to tinker :) Brian Healey wrote: > Has anyone set up a server for Home use? > -I want to be able to do web design, system administration, and some > database design. > > Would you please share with me the specifications and/or recommendations you > have? > - i.e. Brand, Processor, memory, etc. > * I'd like to get a computer that doesn't have driver and swappable > component issues > For example I can run to Best buy and get a little E-Machine - price is > right, but Linux isn't supported, no drivers will be available, I'd rather > not try and 'bastard-ize' a machine that was only intended for Win Me.... > > Do you have domain name, or do you write a script to perpetuate you IP > address? > - Any issues, concerns, legality, etc. > > > Thanks in Advance > -Brian > > > > -- By-Tor.com It's all about the Rush http://www.by-tor.com --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:05:01 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?linux=20power?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: SSH question2 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0-295241803-1037394301=:98010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi. I can find all the lines below except for the server, so I guess its not installed. How do I do that? Do I need a rpm? My version is 2.9p2-7 Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:41, linux power wrote: > Do I need to do more than open the ssh port to get access to the server from remote host? > is openssh-server-3.1p1-2 installed ? [bhughes@bretsony elevate]$ rpm -qa |grep openssh openssh-clients-3.1p1-2 openssh-server-3.1p1-2 openssh-3.1p1-2 openssh-askpass-gnome-3.1p1-2 openssh-askpass-3.1p1-2 is the server started? [bhughes@bretsony elevate]$ su - Password: [root@bretsony root]# service sshd status sshd (pid 997) is running... [root@bretsony root]# -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list http://home.no.net/~knutove/knut_ove_hauge_kuren.htm Yahoo! Mail har fått nytt utseende Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok --0-295241803-1037394301=:98010 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <P>Hi. <P>I can find all the lines below except for the server, so I guess its not installed. <P>How do I do that? Do I need a rpm? <P>My version is 2.9p2-7 <P> <B><I>Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 07:41, linux power wrote:<BR>> Do I need to do more than open the ssh port to get access to the server from remote host?<BR>> <BR><BR>is openssh-server-3.1p1-2 installed ?<BR><BR>[bhughes@bretsony elevate]$ rpm -qa |grep openssh<BR>openssh-clients-3.1p1-2<BR>openssh-server-3.1p1-2<BR>openssh-3.1p 1-2<BR>openssh-askpass-gnome-3.1p1-2<BR>openssh-askpass-3.1p1-2<BR><BR><BR>i s the server started?<BR><BR>[bhughes@bretsony elevate]$ su - <BR>Password: <BR>[root@bretsony root]# service sshd status<BR>sshd (pid 997) is running...<BR>[root@bretsony root]# <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>redhat-list mailing list<BR>unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe<BR>https://listman .redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>http://home.no. net/~knutove/knut_ove_hauge_kuren.htm<p><a href="http://no.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/sp/pim_tou! r_no2.swf"><b>Yahoo! Mail har fått nytt utseende</b></a> <img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/b/mailbr1.gif";><br> Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok --0-295241803-1037394301=:98010-- --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:07:53 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dns question Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make sure that your /etc/nsswitch.conf file has a hosts line that looks like this: hosts: files dns Yours probably says "dns files" instead. On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I really don't get why when the computer is looking for an address > it tries the nameservers in resolv.conf before it tries hosts. However > I gather that the best way to solve my problem is to setup DNS and > name caching on my computer. I have a few questions since the whole > thing has me quite confused > 1. I have the book The Linux Network that tells you how to setup DNS > but it is several years old copyright 1998 has the basic structure > stayed the same or do I need to find a more recent source for a howto.? > 2. If you cache addresses and they are bad does it just give up or > does it try the nameserver at that point? > 3. Can you forward requests to more than one name server ? > (My ISP gives you 3 ) > I am sure I will have more questions before I begin to understand > how this all works so thank you for your patience. > Thanks > Linda > > > > -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org:2000 --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:02:10 -0800 From: Samuel Flory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 vs. Intel ISP 2150 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David HM Spector wrote: > I made the mistake of trying to upgrade a RH7.3 based ISP2150 to > RH8.0... now its dead. The system gets into an endless SCSI > sleep/reset loop when trying to access its disks. > > This was a serious problem as RH7.2 and then got fixed by 7.3 and now > its back again... Has anyone had success installing RH8 on an ISP2150? > What's the motherboard on that system? --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:14:06 -0600 From: "Manuel Camacho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wine in general (my 2 cents) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is Window$ a necessary evil??? Unfortunately, so far, for Engineering applications, I think so. Regarding this thread, my opinion is as follows: -Excel is the best spreadsheet when it comes to advanced uses. QPro was great, but it can be considered mostly dead. StarOffice works wonderfully for regular office work, but it is not well documented for advanced apps. -There is no substitute for M$ Project. It is the best PM software available for PC. There are UNIX PM programs, but they can only be afforded by BIG corporations. Mr. Project may become a serious option, but so far it is not. -AutoCAD still runs only on Window$. Yes, I bought VariCAD, but documentation was SO BAD (I can tell for the English version), that I considered that investment a complete lost. -Linux has outstanding free software for mathematical, programming and data handling applications. -Yes, if there were reliable and functional, well documented software available, at a reasonable price, A LOT of people would be willing to pay for it. Best choice for professionals: place as much memory on your laptop as you can afford, buy VMWare, and run Windows in a VC were you can run whatever Window$ software you require. The question would be, why should I run Linux, then? Well, I can think of some reasons: a) system stability, b) availability of system tools, 3) lots of available high quality software for certain uses, such as compilers, batch processing, and mathematics, 4) flexibility. And, 5) if Window$ hangs, you just have to close the Window!! Best regards, -Manuel. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:20:58 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Julius Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: rh8 and speed Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What kind of performance hit does journaling impose? --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:29:02 -0600 From: Joseph A Nagy Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: out of office problem..... Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael S. Dunsavage wrote: > I called the company and they are required to have an out of office reply. > > A help desk person is going to give him a message to maybe suspend his > redhat list for the days he won't be there. > > -- > Michael S. Dunsavage > > > Then he shouldn't be using his business e-mail for such a high volume list. -- Joseph A Nagy Jr Purgatory is where Windows users go when they Founder and CEO die so they can figure out Linux and ascend into Joseph A Nagy Jr Enterprises whatever higher plane one belives in. http://jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org Linux - The Choice of Every Generation --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:30:34 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?linux=20power?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: SSH question.SOLVED thanks Bret. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0-1427405262-1037395834=:19611 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes I've installed the rpm so now its work fine. Thanks a lot Bret. linux power <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi. Yes I've enabled Rhost authentification and that helped a little. I have opened port 22 in ipchains but when I run portscan it says its filtered. I have applied ipchains -A input -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --destination-port 22 -p tcp -j ACCEPT but it will not open and I get connection refused when I try to connect. Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 06:59, linux power wrote: > > I get network error :connection refused when I try to login with ssh from remote host. > > I have opened the port 22 on the linux server, so I wonder if there is anything else to do. > > First step on this sort of problem for me is ssh -v servername for verbose messages. An awful lot depends on the server configuration. Bret -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list http://home.no.net/~knutove/knut_ove_hauge_kuren.htm Yahoo! Mail har fått nytt utseende Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok http://home.no.net/~knutove/knut_ove_hauge_kuren.htm Yahoo! Mail har fått nytt utseende Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok --0-1427405262-1037395834=:19611 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <P>Yes I've installed the rpm so now its work fine. <P>Thanks a lot Bret. <P> <B><I>linux power <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> <P>Hi. <P>Yes I've enabled Rhost authentification and that helped a little. <P>I have opened port 22 in ipchains but when I run portscan it says its filtered. <P>I have applied ipchains -A input -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --destination-port 22 -p tcp -j ACCEPT <P>but it will not open and I get connection refused when I try to connect. <P> <B><I>Bret Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></I></B> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 06:59, linux power wrote:<BR>> <BR>> I get network error :connection refused when I try to login with ssh from remote host.<BR>> <BR>> I have opened the port 22 on the linux server, so I wonder if there is anything else to do.<BR>> <BR>> <BR><BR>First step on this sort of problem for me is ssh -v servername for<BR>verbose messages. An awful lot depends on the server configuration.<BR><BR>Bret<BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>redhat-list mailing list<BR>unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe<BR>https://listman .redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>http://home.no. net/~knutove/knut_ove_hauge_kuren.htm <P><A href="http://no.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/sp/pim_tour_no2.swf";><B>Yah oo! Mail har fått nytt utseende</B></A> <IMG src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/b/mailbr1.gif";><BR>Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok</P></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>http://home.no.net/~knutove/knut_ove_hauge_ kuren.htm<p><a href="http://no.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/sp/pim_tour_no2.swf";><b>Yah oo! Mail har fått nytt utseende</b></a> <img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/pim/b/mailbr1.gif";><br> Nytt design, enklere å bruke, alltid tilgang til Adressebok, Kalender og Notisbok --0-1427405262-1037395834=:19611-- --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:36:08 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Paul Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: printing messed up Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check the page setup. Is it set for paper size A4 or US Letter 8.5 x 11? At 11:06 AM 11/15/02, you wrote: >hello, >i'm using redhat-8.0 and kde-3.1-rc2 compiled from sources. i'm using cups as >my printing system. the cups test page prints fine, but when i try to print >something from kde or just using lp.cups, a portion of the left and right >sides of the document are cut off. i'm choosing the correct paper size. >what is going on? > >thanks, >christopher > > > >-- >redhat-list mailing list >unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list --__--__-- Message: 11 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:38:39 +0100 From: Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dns question Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:12:53 +0100, Giulio Orsero wrote: > On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:16:30 -0600 (CST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > >I really don't get why when the computer is looking for an address > >it tries the nameservers in resolv.conf before it tries hosts. > >However > Seems you're not alone: > http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=74477 Permission denied. Sorry; you do not have the permissions necessary to see bug 74477. - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE91Wlf0iMVcrivHFQRAi2YAJ4t8zTETtA1l7s5lBS1N8AmShjuJgCeMQky exL9r3AFAjupetwKFs2jNME= =dehB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:47:44 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Burger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: mr petrie is history - [[but should he really be?]] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Richard Tricoche wrote: > What happens when Mr. Petrie comes in Monday morning to check his latest > posts on the mailing list and sees he has been banned? What happens when > someone else on the list stays home one day and forgets to manually > unsubscribe to the mailing list for that day? > > Is it really the end users fault for not remembering to visit the website > and click the link to unsubscribe for the day... or is it the mailing list's > administrator's fault for allowing this type of spam to work it's way > through to everyone of our mailboxes? No...it's not the end user's fault for not unsubscribing. It's his fault for not properly configuring his out of office settings. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org:2000 --__--__-- __ redhat-list mailing list Unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list End of redhat-list Digest -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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