From: David Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Webmin
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 01:47:47 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thursday 07 November 2002 05:22 pm, Brad Alpert wrote:

> Webin is absolutely awesome.

> <RANT>
> Linuxconf and Yast and tools like it have a huge fatal design flaw: they use a
> separate database to hold their settings, and update the text configuration
> files the rest of the world use as a seperate process.  That means (1) if you
> update the text configuration files yourself, the next time you run the
> fancy-pants GUI config tool, your changes can get overwritten, and (2) when
> bad things happen to good data, and they can get out of sync even if you
> don't edit the text files by hand.  There is no inspection and/or repair tool
> for the database, so you're SOL.
> </RANT>

Linuxconf does not have a separate database. Never had.

Yast used to update the various configs from its own /etc/rc.config. Don't know
if it still does that.

Linuxconf read and update configuration files.
The only case is sendmail.cf which is generated
using templates. Those using M4 are doing exactly that (generate using templates).
If webmin only modifies stuffs in sendmail.cf, then it can't do much since a
sendmail.cf does not contains all possible sendmail feature.

This miss-information has been spread about linuxconf for so long. Linuxconf
users routinely edit files by hands if they feel like it.

Even if you update sendmail.cf by hand, linuxconf will request permission before
updating the file, and it will update the file because you have explicitly use
the option "generate sendmail.cf" (using newer templates for example).

> Another benefit of webmin is that it's moduler.  You add and subtract what you
> want.  It also means if a daemon's config file format changes, you don't wait
> for a release of Webmin, you just get the updated plugin for that daemon.

All admin tool I know are modular. Linuxconf included, although we distribute
(like webmin) a large bunch of modules in a single package so it is easier the get
the latest of everything.

> Yet one more benefit is that you can set up authorizations such that some mere
> mortal users can configure what you want them to without becoming root,  With
> the other tools, they have to be run as root.

Linuxconf has a privilege system for years, very fine grain. For example you can allow
a normal user to configure users in a specific group only. He is then allowed
to create/delete/modify accounts in that group only. Or you can allow a normal
users to control the queue of a single printer.

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