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[mailto:redhat-list-admin@;redhat.com]On Behalf Of Gordon Messmer
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why are IDE drives so much slower in Linux?


On Tue, 2002-11-05 at 07:25, Luis Hernandez-Garcia wrote:
> We've noticed in our lab that the machines that have IDE hard disks run
> their write operations(ie- things that use a lot of swap space)

Why would "write operations" use a lot of swap space?
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I worded this poorly:  things that use swap space, and therefore need to
write to disk.
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If you're having problems with bad performance because of swap issues,
the kernel version you're running would be useful information.  You
definitely want to use the latest errata kernel for your distribution,
if you're not.

If the problem is that you're swapping excessively, it's probably
related to the VM in your kernel more than the IDE disks.

> slowly than when we execute the same sort of operations in WIndows
machines
> (Matlab, for example), and orders of magnitude slower than the machines
that
> have SCSI drives.  The IDE machines grind almost to a halt, whereas the
SCSI
> ones fly through the operations, and the Windows+IDE machines do just
fine.

I'd be very inclined to believe that your SCSI machines have a great
deal more RAM, and swap less.
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That's not the case though, both have 1/2 GB RAM

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> I know that SCSI is inherently faster than IDE

There tends to be a greater throughput when using multiple devices,
because SCSI can do command reordering for optimization, as well as
multiple outstanding commands to distinct devices.  It's "faster" when
you have more than one device per channel.  However, in the case of one
device per channel, as you will find on 3ware RAID products, for
instance, performance may be just as good as with SCSI products.

> and the Linux/Unix have been developed with SCSI in mind.

No they haven't.

> But, isn't there a way to optimize the system
> so that it uses the IDE drives more efficiently?  Any hints?  I, and
> everyone around me would sure appreciate them.

1: Update your kernel
2: Check your DMA settings:
   /sbin/hdparm /dev/hda
3: Turn on DMA in /etc/sysconfig/harddisks if it's not enabled.

thanks, we'll try these!

-Luis


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