I saw the parent post - I am glad you responded before me

As regards chown/grp it would probably have been easier to type 
chown <user> dir
chgrp <user> dir

grrrh

people saying rtfm is not good for new recruits

On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 21:58, Bret Hughes wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-10-04 at 12:49, David Busby wrote:
> > When I create a mail directory as a user the 'ls -l' output looks like
> > drwxrwxr-x    5 busby    busby        4096 Oct  3 16:57 mail
> > 
> > But if I create the mail directory as root for that user and (chmod 
> > 0775) the output looks like
> > drwxrwxr-x    2 root    root        4096 Oct  3 16:57 mail
> > 
> > When I create as root my PostFix install has a problem placing mail into 
> > the ~/mail directory.  How can I switch the owner of the directory to 
> > make the directory I created have the permissions of "5 busby busby" not 
> > "2 root root".  
> 
> chown busby.busby mail
> 
> you have to be root to change the ownership to another user.
> 
> info changown has lots of stuff about these gnu utilites
> 
> What do the 5 and the 1 mean?
> 
> from the above mentioned info file for ls
> 
> `-l'
> `--format=long'
> `--format=verbose'
>      In addition to the name of each file, print the file type,
>      permissions, number of hard links, owner name, group name, size in
>      bytes, and timestamp (by default, the modification time).  For
>      files with a time more than six months old or in the future, the
>      timestamp contains the year instead of the time of day.  If the
>      timestamp contains today's date with the year rather than a time
>      of day, the file's time is in the future, which means you probably
>      have clock skew problems which may break programs like `make' that
>      rely on file times.
> 
> number of hard links is the answer.  typically there will be one added
> for each directory under the dir in question in addition to the 2 that
> are always there.  I think the two hardlinks are one for the directory
> that is obvioulsy in the parent dir and the one that is listed in the
> dir itself as . or "this directory"
> 
> not a bad idea to play around with it until you understand it.
> 
> the following is what I get after creating three dirs:
> $ mkdir testdir
> $ mkdir testdir/testdir1
> $ mkdir testdir/testdir2
> 
> $ tree testdir/  
> testdir/
> |-- testdir1
> `-- testdir2
> 
> 2 directories, 0 files
> $ ls -d testdir 
> testdir
> $ ls -ld testdir
> drwxrwxr-x    4 exhibito exhibito     4096 Oct  4 15:55 testdir
> 
> $ rmdir testdir/testdir1
> $ ls -ld testdir
> drwxrwxr-x    3 exhibito exhibito     4096 Oct  4 16:00 testdir
> 
> 
> HTH Bret
> 
> 
> 
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