Thank you very much, great advice and information. -Jeff

On 14 Aug 2002, you wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:13:57AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: > I found a modem at a thrift store that appears to be in new >
> condition. It is a Courier I-Modem ISDN 128kbps v. everthing US >
> Robotics and it is external.  [...] Do I need to have special >
> service to make this work or just change the phone wall connector to >
> fit the larger ISDN connector.
> 
> You don't want the modem.
> 
> For much of the US phone system a voice call gets digitized at 64 Kbps
> and is hauled around that way.  Once the call is bits the bits can be
> copied perfectly.  That's why long distance calls these days usually
> sound as good as local calls.  (That is also why analogue dialup
> modems were never going to match or beat 64 Kbps--they get turned into
> a 64 kbps stream anyway.)  ISDN was based on the clever idea of
> bringing that digital connection out to the end user, and it was a way
> to do it over copper wires without nasty distance limitations.  The
> reason for the "128" is that they put two of these 64 kbps channels on
> one circuit.  One could be used for a voice call and the other a data
> call, or both voice, or both data--possibly bonded together for 128
> kbps.
> 
> But ISDN never really happened.  First, because phone companies are
> not good at innovation and couldn't figure out how to market it.
> (Hell, much of the time you could call asking to buy ISDN and not be
> able to find anyone at the phone company who had heard of it.) Second,
> ISDN was "circuit switched" on the cusp of the "packet switched" era. 
> That is, instead of, say, a DSL connection where you might fling a
> packet at any IP address on the internet, ISDN was a data phone call
> from one phone number to another phone number.  These two problems
> combined to make ISDN very expensive.  Ironically, one flavor of DSL
> (IDSL I think it is) is actually based upon ISDN techology for putting
> the bits on the wire.
> 
> ISDN does still exist.  It is used by radio stations for interviews
> across the country or across oceans, and even recording studios will
> sometimes use it to link up a remote musician.  The reason is because
> it doesn't have the nasty delay of a satellite connection and it is
> more reliable than sending bits over the internet.
> 
> > And second question, as a Linux novice, will I be able to make this
> > work if I buy it? It is only $25.00 so it seems like a good deal.
> > -Jeff
> 
> Linux does have ISDN support, but you don't want ISDN just because you
> can buy a modem for cheap.  
> 
> 
> -kb
> 
> 
> P.S.  When a phone company says "64 kbps" they mean 64,000, not the
> 65,536 preferred by a computer person.
> 
> 
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