John P Verel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 05/17/02, 05:12:53PM -0500, Bret Hughes wrote:
>> On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 16:52, John P Verel wrote:
>> > On 05/17/02, 12:56:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> > As I say, I liked Ximian.  But upgrading, at least for now, is not
>> > ready for prime time, IMHO.  I'm quite happy with RedHat's out of the
>> > box Gnome install.
>> 
>> 
>> I am in the same boat now.  I have a laptop that is my primary
>> workstation and I wanted to try evolution so I did the ximian thing. 
>> Now I can't even upgrade mozilla since ximian gets its fingers into
>> everything.  I am going to try and upgrade it to 7.3 from 7.2 but first
>> I guess I will have to undo the ximian stuff.  Any tips on it?  
>
> The only thing that worked for me was to remove all the ximian rpms,
> using a KDE Konsole.  Presulably a regualr console would work as well.

Hm. I've done more than one upgrade (7.0 -> 7.1 -> 7.2 -> 7.3) of
several Ximianized RH systems, one of them yesterday (7.2 -> 7.3). (I
wanted to verify this procedure again before commenting on it in the
other message about removing rpms in this thread).

All I usually did was upgrade using the CDs (booting off them,
choosing "upgrade") as usual, where I had to tell RH that it's ok with
me that it does what it sees fit with "overlapping 3rd party
packages".

After upgrading RH I simply reinstalled ximian using the following
procedure:

- "System-wide" X server turned off (telinit 3 or edited initdefault)

- On text console 1 log in as root, start X (using just
    X 
so it will sit there without any applications - especially no gnome
ones)

- On text console 2 log in as root, start the ximian installer
    DISPLAY=:0 ./installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386

- Switching to the X screen (usually console 7) shows the ximian
installer sort of stuck in the upper left corner without any
decoration (because no window manager is running); but it is fully
useable nonetheless. Finish installation as usual.

+ Sometimes the installer complains about requireing specific versions
of some packages (but that is no longer related to the RH upgrade -
would happen with a full reinstall as well, I guess). When you have
the machine being installed connected to the internet just removing
the offending packages is usually sufficient; if it is in the way a
different version would be installed by ximian anyway ;-)

- After installation has completed, exit X server (for example using
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in the now empty graphics screen); go back to
runlevel 5 (telinit 5) and exit the text consoles.

Worked for me everytime; yesterday even between upgrading RH and
reinstalling Ximian the gnome desktop was in a useable state (as my
girlfriend accidentally found out :-)


What exactly are the upgrade problems you're experiencing?


So long,
   Joe

-- 
"I use emacs, which might be thought of as a thermonuclear
 word processor."
-- Neal Stephenson, "In the beginning... was the command line"



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