-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 17 May 2002, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 17:24:28 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: RE DSL IP ROBBERY > > I disagree. I signed up for a connection to the Internet and > bandwidth--period--when I contracted with my isp. This recent nonsense of > blocking ports is just plain insulting. > > Assuming that I am a responsible citizen (which any administrator needs to > be on ANY network) on the Internet, what I do with my bandwidth is my > business. > > I did NOT sign up for X hours or for Y Gb of traffic. If I choose to run a > server at my site, I'm ***saving my isp money*** and resources since they > do not have to run that service for me or allocate the disk space to me. > > Mark > > > > Price =~ speed * reliability * features. > > > > Features include things like static IP addresses, peering, hosting, > > etc, etc, etc... A dude with static IP address SHOULD pay more than one > > who is making occasional use of an IP pool or one who is not running > > static services. Turn it around... Against the higher price, those who > > can accept cheaper services get a discount. You want the high priced > > spred but you want the discount too. > > > > Turn it around. All these mergers are a result of rats like you > > who don't want to pay for services they demand so the ISPs can't pay their > > bills and go bankrupt and get bought out. You made your own bed. > > > > You might have it "fast", "featureful" (static, stable, whatever), > > and "cheap". PICK TWO! YOU DON'T GET THREE! > > > > Mike > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > Mark is absolutely right in this case, all we are really paying for is the connection and the bandwidth and that's the end of it, whatever the customer does with it is protected under the first ammendment, barring anything illegal that may be done or anything that is done to harm, frighten, etc. However, I can also see the ISP's point of view in which they say that people shouldn't hog all the bandwidth that their line can handle. A concrete example would be if I went into a grocery store and bought all the cartons of milk on the shelf, leaving none for other people who would come in after me. When ISP's figure out the monthly charges for new services, they have to make a calculation on what most people will use reasonably within the timeframe that they are billing for (30 days usually). This is especially true with resellers of web hosting and dialup services who ARE billed per GB transferred over the network. For example, if someone bought 50GB of traffic @ 30 cents per GB, they would be paying $15 per month + diskspace fees. However, what happens when people go over their limit? They get charged extra. Part of it indeed is that ISP's are greedy and want to make a buck. However, in the case of the resellers, they have to do it because of the fact that they, in turn, have to pay their ISP for the overage at their rates. In short, ISP's are a mixed bag, they are good for alot of things, but they can also be a curse in some respects, especially where billing is concerned. - -- Jonathan [----------------------------------------------------] [ Jonathan M. Slivko | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ web: http://jslivko.freeshell.org -- primary ] [ web: http://my.core.com/~jonathan.slivko/ ] [ GPG Key @ http://jslivko.freeshell.org/jslivko.gpg ] [----------------------------------------------------] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (NetBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE85XpuJZabLlKpP6QRAhf/AKC3skguK2CpTtxVjhA27CtwWK+V6ACfa5pk wmQJF6GPXeLcUsjaF3TGsxc= =lzpu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
