Hello Glen,

Why don't you firewall the box itself ? 

1) My server runs its own firewalling and I havn't had a problem.

2) I think this was a problem with the Service Provider - Use something like
ipchains/iptables and ipfwadm (masq. back into network) - where you have
control

3) Now you do :)

4) No, but it does limit the chances (greatly). Why open something that you
don't want like SNMP for public query ?

5) No. You can make the machine connect to any port on any server and get
traffic from them, without them beeing able to setup a connection to you.

Here is the ipchains code to do that (set your policy to deny)

$EXTIP="your external ip"

ipchains -A output -p tcp -s $EXTIP -d $ANY -j ACCEPT
ipchains -A input -p tcp -y ! -s $ANY -d $EXTIP -j ACCEPT

If this is a true firewall (i.e. dedicate) then you can even use masq.

Just my 2c

Cheers,

Pieter

-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Lee Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 May 2002 08:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hacked again...


Pieter De Wit writes:
>Hello Original Poster,
>
>Sorry I joined the thread late, but why don't you firewall the box(es)
using
>ipchains or iptables ?

I haven't done that for several reasons:

1) If the firewall box goes down, the entire system goes down.

2) I had a leased server that was behind a firewall.  It frequently was a
pain
to deal with.

3) Until recently I haven't needed to.

4) Putting in a firewall doesn't guarantee that you won't be hacked.  The
first
time I was hacked the box in question was behind a firewall.  The jerk was
still
able to gain root access.

5) Having a tight firewall is like living in a fenced in yard.  No one can
get
in, but you can't get out.  I have no desire to live on an island.

Glen





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