up2date has made my life a lot easier, I can update my servers so much easier. I love the whole redhat network idea. Chris
On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 03:53, Jim Bija wrote: > I was unaware that up2date (which i have never used, because its kind of > sounds like a pain..you gotta make an account with redhat and if you have > more then like what 3 computers? you have to pay for it, even Micro$oft dont > charge a monthly fee for updates!) can install a single package that is not > allready installed, did i hear you right? It can do this? If i dont have > openssh installed how would i use up2date to install it? up2date openssh* > would i need to know the whole RPM package filename or what? Apt-get is the > app i was thinking about with debian apt-get openssh and it does all else > for you, your DONE, AND its FREE. > It sounds like up2date is redhat's version of this, but its not free you > have to register each computer then you gotta goto the web site enable which > one you want, then update it, then if you have multiple computers you gotta > go back to the web site enable another one then update it, my understanding > is this trickery is not needed if you pay for it, lol.. Like that one > Redhat? hehe.Where there is a will there is a way not to pay! > Jim. > PS* To sway some flames i may and perhaps should get, i am NOT bashing > Redhat i think its the best distro out there, atleast ive been using it for > long enough to realy get to "know it", which is fine with me. I tried debian > it didnt find my VID card so i now use it for a coaster(no joke). > I love the updates done with kickstart, kickstart allone makes Redhat great! > I have kickstarts for an ISP i try to admin that will rebuild their 2 dns 2 > radius 1 web 1 email and 1 ftp server in like 15 minutes, crashed hard > drives scare me not anymore, thanks Redhat! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Storey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 2:00 AM > Subject: Re: package management > > > > I'm in full agreement with you Jim - RPM is good, but some sort of > > package management system that resolves deps is BADLY NEEDED. > > SuSE's Yast tool and Debian's apt-get are both a little clunky, but they > > get the job done. I hope that Redhat is planning to address this in the > > next release (are you reading this Trond?). Other than this, I'm pretty > > happy with Redhat, it does some things better than the other distros > > (hardware detection, to name just one). > > > > regards, > > Robert Storey > > > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:03:02 -0500 > > "Jim Bija" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I think RPM is great, but it is missing something that you would think > is > > > just NEEDED. I have pulled my hair out MANY times chasing down DEPS. > > > As i understand it in debian when you install something it will go get > what > > > you need no matter what it is and it WILL get installed for you. > > > RPM has a long way to go i think. I REALY look forward to newer ver's of > RPM > > > and im SURE any redhat user feels the same. > > > Jim. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert Storey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:42 PM > > > Subject: package management > > > > > > > > > > Being somewhat new to Redhat, I wonder if I haven't missed something > > > > when it comes to package management. > > > > > > > > Yes, I understand how to use RPM, and generally it works OK. The > > > > tricky part is when you have dependency errors. RPM tells you when you > > > > have dependency errors, but it doesn't resolve them for you. Same with > > > > GnomeRPM - you're told what's missing, but GnomeRPM doesn't go fetch > > > > the missing RPMs for you. > > > > > > > > I've used SuSE for awhile, which is also RPM-based. It's YAST > > > > installation program keeps a database of what's installed and resolves > > > > dependencies for you. Debian uses something similar with its apt-get > > > > program. So I'm wondering if there is something in Redhat that does > > > > the same job? The Redhat books that I've looked at all explain RPM > > > > thoroughly, but say nothing about an installation/package manager type > > > > of program. So I'm wondering if such a thing exists? I'm using RH 7.1. > > > > > > > > - Robert Storey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Redhat-list mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Redhat-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Redhat-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _______________________________________________ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
