While I agree that it would help if many (sometimes myself included) would
RTFM, there can be some problems with that.  First, it may not be apparent
to the individual asking what manual they should read to find information
regarding their problem.  I agree for many items this is normally just "man
command" or "info command" where command is what you are having problems
with.  However that brings us to the second problem.  I've looked at the man
page for su and I have to tell you, I for one would not have completely
understood that "su -" would get me the environment of the individual.  Now,
looking at the man page with the knowledge that it does do that, I can see
their intent.

In short, my point is that we should not get to the point of just telling
everyone with a question that has been answered elsewhere or in a manual to
RTFM.  I feel this is especially the case information is not provide with
regard to which manual it is they should be reading.  Please remember that
we all started at the bottom at one time or another.  I'm fairly sure that
at some point in each of our experiences with Linux, there has been outside
assistance in one form or another to help us along.  Let's not begrudge that
help to someone else.

Jamin W. Collins
-----Original Message-----
From: Vidiot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 7:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: su and root not the same??

>Would anyone of you guys please explain why I can't run for example
>'ifconfig' or 'ntsysv' when I use su in a telnet session? I allways get the
>'bash: ifconfig: command not found' message. I thought that su would give
me
>all the root rights.

The su command, by itself, keeps a majority of the environment of the person
issuing the su command.  The get the complete environment of root, you
have to do a "su -".

When all else fails, RTFM.

MB
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