[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

> Why is Xemacs not included in any of the main RH distributions? I'm just
> curious b/c all the other main editors are included.

Do you know that there are xemacs rpms on the redhat
"Powertools" disks?  This took me a little while to figure
out myself, because (at least at that time) there was
something screwy about the indexing on rpmfind.net.  As I
remember it, if you know something is on "Powertools" it's
easy to find, but if you don't know that it was impossible
(or nearly so).

I guess now it's not too bad: on rpmfind.net you can now
look up packages that begin with an "x", search for xemacs,
and after first ignoring the SUSE rpms (all named xe_*), and
the Mandrake rpms (all named xemacs*mdk), you come to the
Redhat rpms (all named xemacs*, without any
'mdk')... (good thing the Linux world isn't fragmenting,
isn't it?).

As to why it's not included in the main distro, I can only
speculate.  It's kind of big (even bigger than Gnu emacs,
which some people like to whine about), and it's probably a
bit of a struggle to keep the core RedHat distro down to two
CDs (one binary, one source).  I get the impression (though
I can't remember why) that a lot of the Redhat folks are
vi-weenies anyway, and maybe they think that they're doing
us a favor by including any emacs at all. 

I like some things about xemacs myself, but I still haven't
switched from Gnu emacs as my main editor. I think it's cool
that xemacs has some of my old favorite lisp packages
included standard, like calc (ah, a calculator program that
let's me add times in MM:SS format without converting to
decimal minutes first) and w3 (which in xemacs even displays
images).  On the other hand, I don't think it's so cool that
it's not compatible with the customizations in my old
.emacs, which means that I'll have to figure out another set
of hacks just to do things like set the text and background
colors.

It's also a minor annoyance that they didn't just use a new
name for the initilization file (like ".xemacs").  If you
want to play with both emacs and xemacs, you've got to take
the sample .emacs file that comes with xemacs, and paste
you're old .emacs file into the appropriate location.
Though I guess what I did was to rename my old .emacs so
that I could just add the one line:

       ;; Code specific to FSF Emacs 19 (or greater!) goes here
       ;;
       (load "/home/doom/.emacs_just_gnu")

I also think it's bizarre that they didn't switch the help
key from Control-H.  If I were going to do a fork from Gnu
emacs, that's the first thing I'd do. 






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