I saw this, and had to butt in...
I <AM> the sysadmin for a bunch of machines... not by training (I have only
a few formal classes on sysadmin, all taken while I was getting my
masters... and mostly dealing with the networking aspects of DNS/Bind/YP)
nor by inclination, nor even by job title... it's not my job (I'm a software
engineer/Computer Scientist/DBA/CodeHead.... multifaceted). But... we have
2 supercomputers (Origin2000s, a 32 and an 8), a Beowulf cluster computer, a
supercomputing visualization box (Onyx2), an Immersadesk, a bunch of IRIX
workstations, and a bunch of Linux workstations, plus a couple of NT Graphic
Workstations. Those don't administer themselves. They don't schedule
backups, they don't patch the systems, etc. If I want it done, I and one
coworker have to do it (since the systems "belong" to myself and the
coworker).
Now, you're saying that if I want to be able to see your website the way you
intend, I should perform these fixes. I'll tell you, it took me a couple of
hours to apply the fix to ONE of the Linux boxes, and that one just had a
failure last week, causing me to have to do a reinstall. Coupled with other
hardware failures (the head of my Beowulf failed two weeks ago, and hasn't
been rebuilt), a major relocation of all of my machines, an upcoming
Congressional visit, etc., I MAY get to try upgrading XFS again sometime...
oh, in the summer. If I don't have to take off too much time for the birth
of my daughter.
I think you get the point....
That said, I don't give a fig what the author "wants" a page to look like,
as long as I get the information and can make use of it. And I'm an old web
page author too. Content is king, in my book.... image is just window
dressing. Make your website usable by everyone at some lowest denominator,
THEN window dress it. You do yourself, and others, a favor.
Bill Ward
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Housh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 6:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: fonts in netscape
> There are some versions of X that do not allow you to install TT fonts.
> While anyone can build their own X to do so, there will be sites that
> do not allow the user root permission in which to do so.
They can easily request that the system administrator do it for
them.
> It is established protocol by web producers, and every author on Web page
> development will point out the error in your ways. It is very conceited
This is only an error in your opinion, as I have stated.
> to think that everyone will do your bidding and install the font. That
> is where I learned about CORRECT font usage for web pages, by web authors.
I never said I expect everyone to download the font. I said I want
my
page to appear with the Verdana font, and I don't care much about the
others. Please leave words like CORRECT out of this, as again they are
your opinions.
> If you want Verdana, put it first in the list, but add Helvetica, Arial
> and sans-serif in the list as well. That way, if verdana is not
installed,
> at least the viewer will get the font that is closest to it that WILL
reside
> on that user's system.
I'm well aware of how to fix the issue. As I have repeatedly said,
it
was intentional.
> I'm sure you will disagree with me, but people who makes it their business
> will be happy to point out the error in your ways.
>
> Keep in mind, that Netscape users, under Unix, will see COURIER if the
> font doesn't exist. Is that what you want?
See above.
I will not respond to this on the list again. If you think it'll get
you somewhere to continue this with me, feel free to email me directly.
Matt
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