I think this was mentioned earlier but could the different results be
the difference between
        su
and 
        su -
I know su alone does not set the environment to the su'ed user but I
don't know about the user id associated with various programs


Perhaps a test:

su to root

then start the passwd command

in another session do

ps -aux |grep passwd

look to see who is running passwd.

try it also with su -

Just a thought.  I may try it later .

Bret



Ward William E PHDN wrote:
> 
> If you aren't afraid to play with the system, here's something you can
> do.
> 
> Create a dummy account.  Assign the dummy account the password that you
> want to change root to.
> 
> open /etc/passwd and lookup the dummy account.  Between the first and second
> colon (:) is the encrypted new password.  Copy that string verbatim into the
> root
> account.   Save your work.
> 
> Delete the dummy account.
> 
> Try doing an su again, and you should find the password has changed.  I'd
> experiment once to be sure you did it right while you are actually at the
> box, or if you have done a shadow password file.
> 
> Bill Ward
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Lillicrap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 12:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: recipient.list.not.shown; @nswcphdn.navy.mil
> Subject: Changing root password remotely.
> 
> Hi I have two RH6.0 servers which I administer remotely from home.  They are
> in
> a different city which is a 3.5-4 hour drive away.  I would like to be able
> to
> remotely change the root password on these boxes, but I have run into a
> problem...
> 
> I have to telnet to the boxes with a regular users acount and then su to get
> root access (I think this is normal).  Anyway, when I have sued to root and
> give passwd root, everything appears to work properly.   It asks me for the
> new
> password, and then asks me to reenter etc.  Everything seems good.
> 
> However, when I log off and then log back in as a regular user, and then try
> to
> su to root using my new password, it doesn't work (the first time I did this
> is
> scared the **it out of me as I thought I'd locked myself out of the system).
> 
> All that had happened though is that the old password was still in place and
> I
> could get root just fine with that.
> 
> So my question is, what do I need to do change the password remotely????
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Timothy Lillicrap
> 
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