The celerons have a 128K integrated cache running at clock speed.  The 
celerons tag ram covers the entire 4G address space.  The pentium II's
have a 512K integrated cache running at 1/2 clock speed and the tag ram
covers 512M only.  The celerons run a {standard} bus clock of 66 Mhz
and the p2 run a {standard} bus clock of 100Mhz.  The celerons are 
incredibly overclockable.  The 300, 333, and 366's are regularly
overclocked to a 100Mhz bus speed (450, 500, and 550Mhz respectively)
with great success.

At the standard bus speeds, a P2 will outperform a celeron at the same 
CPU frequency.  If you overclock a celeron to a 100Mhz bus clock, it will
generally equal to outperform a P2 running at the same CPU speed (ie., if
you overclock a 333mhz celeron to 450 (100mhz bus clock), except for a
few very specific apps, it will equal or outperform a 450Mhz P2).

The celerons and the P2s share a common floating point unit.  Either will
outperform a K6/K7 in floating point operations.

The P3 adds new instructions, but until the coppermines, retains the P2
cache.  The new P3 coppermines add a better cache, faster instruction
execution, and a 133 Mhz bus clock.

rwt
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Robert Tashjian
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From: "Alan Mead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Processor Recommendation


> At 09:11 PM 2/22/00 , Chad W. Skinner wrote:
> >buy though. I have found a Celeron 500 for $102.00 and PII 400-450 for about
> >$150+. I am not planning on doing anything real demanding except for maybe a
> >little database and web development. One of these machines will be running
> >linux solely the other windows.
> 
> 
> I'm not an expert and opinions differ but I get the impression that the 
> Celron with the larger integrated cache is actually quite a good performer 
> for general computing (and much better than, say, an AMD K-x at math).  I 
> think the PII/PIII adds support for graphics operations and other issues 
> that are more germane to playing games (like Windows :).  You may see a 
> little better performance running a Linux GUI as well.  I like my Celron 
> 400 running Linux/GNOME a lot more than the PII 350 Windows workstation I 
> use here at work.
> 
> I would second the recommendation to spend the extra money on RAM.  Both of 
> the applications you mention would benefit from lots of RAM (although in 
> light use you probably won't need it).
> 
> But, to just learn about networking I would just get 2-3 old 486's.  It is 
> not uncommon to get a complete system unit (no monitor) for less than 
> $50.  Add a new 6 GB HD for $120 and you have a great experimental web 
> server.  A 486 with a little RAM (>= 40MB) and a fast, new HD isn't going 
> to run Yahoo but it will process a lot of requests for static pages and 
> return OK performance on CGI in moderate service.
> 
> -Alan
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