Just another tidbit-

Celerons are old.  Athlons are new.  There is a reason price falls with
time...

Also-

The K7 500 mhz usually is a 650mhz chip.  So you can overclock it to 650
mhz for about 70$ more (or less if you are good with a soldering iron).

Honestly.... new technology == high prices, but it will come down in price
remarkably fast.  In fact, I saw athlon 500's for 179; the board is
100-150, so already they have dropped quite a bit.

jason

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On Sat, 22 Jan 2000, Jim Wang wrote:

> 
> 
> The recent discussion of the K7 Athlon envy piqued my interest because
> I recently faced the decision of how to upgrade from my K6/200.  I had
> two candidates:
> 
> prices for mb, CPU(s) and fan(s):
> 
> K7/500 plus Asus K7M, about $375
> dual Celerons on Abit BP6, about $250
> 
> I was attracted to the Athlon because of the specs: reported
> performance better than P-IIIs, 2 MB cache, 200 MHz bus, etc.
> 
> However, thanks to several helpful readers who performed a basic
> floating-point benchmark (a matrix multiply) it seemed that simple
> floating-point operations (multiplies and add) do not fully exploit
> the K7's specs.  Since I don't play games or do any fancy graphics,
> floating-point and integer performance is more important to me.
> 
> So I went with the BP6 with two Celeron 366s, which happen to reliably
> overclock to 572 Mhz (144% !).  This machine has incredible
> performance:
> 
> - Runs 2.2.12-20smp SMP with RH 6.1
> - dmesg reports 1141.96 BogoMIPS
> - Performs FP benchmark in 4.4 sec (using one CPU only), compared to:
>       P-II/400        8.9
>       Sun Ultra 60    16
>       K7/500          17
> - Supports up to 8 IDE drives, 4 ea. DMA/33 and DMA/66
> - Has 2 on-board USB ports
> - No problems @ 104 MHz FSB with PC-100 mem, STB video, AHA2903,
> AudioPCI
> - Has an avid user group with info at www.bp6.com, lots of useful info
> 
> For $47 each, the C366 Celerons are remarkable.  They overclock better
> than more expensive C400s (have two at work which only go to 522 Mhz).
> I still have a Pentium 90 which cost $600 in 1994.  It does the
> benchmark above in 72 seconds.  :-(
> 
> There's no doubt that the K7 is an excellent chip, and for many
> applications it is preferable for the same reasons that my $250
> machine can't really replace a Sun Ultra 60.
> 
> But I think that for many people, the lower cost BP6 board is more
> than adequate and will suffice quite well.
> 
> Jim
> 
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