Let me say upfront that I like Linux in general, and RedHat in particular. 
 And (heresy!) I like MS products. 

2 questions:
-- what about the architectural/accounting package?
-- who will maintain the OS and other various software updates?

As far as dependability - when properly configured and used as intended, 
MS Servers are _very_ reliable.  Cases in point:

-- I have a Windows NT Server which has been processing our HTTP, SMTP and 
POP3 for more than 5 years.  Total downtime is measured in hours, all of 
it in upgrading the web server software (not MS) and MS patches.  We don't 
use it for anything other that what I spec'ed it for - a server.

-- I have a Windows NT Server, used for user network authentication and 
print server.  It's been in place for more than 5 years, less downtime 
than the web server. Again, it's used as intended and for nothing else.

-- I have another WinNT Server, used as the Backup PDC, as the system 
console to our iSeries, and as an FTP server.  Similar downtime as our 
other servers.

The only time we've had trouble with any Windows box is because of lame 
users who install the latest worm or virus.  Linux is less prone to that 
problem for now, but will not remain so as Linux desktops become more 
prevalent.  And unmaintained Linux servers have a big ol' target on them, 
which will only get bigger over time.

As for cost: did you (or the admin) consider Microsoft's Partner In 
Development program?  It runs about US$1000/year, and gets you the latest 
Windows Server software, workstation software (XP these days), Office 
software, etc.  With licenses for multiple installs of the non-Server 
software. Not a bad way to go, if you qualify.

Maintenance, training and upgrades: these are some of the "hidden costs" 
that the Linux community is too often mum about - and some that you and 
the admin should have already discussed...


Tom Hightower
Solutions, Inc
http://www.simas.com





Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I just want to relate the happiness I have over the successful
installation of yet another RedHat server for a small business customer
of mine;

They were in need of a low-cost, dependable server machine to be used as
a file server and a printer server - a machine on which they could load
a high-end architectural/accounting package; originally they were faced
with spending upwards of $6000 (for a MS type box, of course); my total
"drop in" cost for the box ended up being $2200 - loaded with RH9 +
updates, Samba, MySQL, using SENDMAIL/FETCHMAIL/PROCMAIL + SpamAssassin,
F-Prot and ClamAV - as well as being the gateway for an 802.11b 2.4ghz
network in our area. Actual software load and configuration was one
evening here at home - about 2 hours total; drop in on site with client
machine configurations was one day. Done deal. No dramas, no sweat, no
problems. Even had time to show the admin how to use VNC to access the
server desktop; script was setup to backup to CDRW once per week. EZ as
pie.

Had this have been a Windows box I would have spent three days with it -
for one thing or another - I'm used to that crap, and the monstrous size
of the patches/updates/fixes.

So, for anyone with any doubts, it's really easy - it's really simple.
Plus, the customer was more than happy to know that they have IMAP/POP
functionality, a proxy (privoxy) and a firewall - without license fees
and BS associated. They even have a nice big round RH sticker on the
front door now...(couldn't say "No" to the admin - was her idea).

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