Martin Marques said:

> Last months LJ has a great article about setting up a
> Postfix+LDAP+Courier,  and they also say that there is lack of a good
> administration tool.  Especially compared with NIS that has all the
> accounts as normal system  accounts on a server.


curius what administration tool is good for NIS ? I've used solaris,
hpux, irix, aix, tru64, freebsd, openbsd, about a dozen flavors of
linux and have yet to see a "good" administration tool for NIS.

If you just mean a basic user management tool that's not what I
would be interested in. The last NIS server I ran was on solaris,
and I only exported the password/group information, the only
management tools I used was useradd, usermod, groupadd, groupmod,
passwd, and cd /var/yp ; make ...

my LDAP server stores email addresses, mail routing addresses, postal
addresses, names, phone numbers, host acl information(what hosts a user
is allowed to login to), descriptions(generic lines with generic
information), along with the rest of the data required for the
user account(uid/gid/password/etc). my LDAP server also stores mail
aliases, hosts a samba-tng backend, and more..

I suppose a management tool could be developed for such a thing
but I suspect by the end it would look much like a LDIF editor, which
is what I use now(ldapexplorer), perhaps with a bit more intelligence
to know what objectClasses are required for certain things, and what
pieces of data could be removed to make entries smaller.

just curious, I keep seeing people mention NIS management tools but
have yet to see anything good, though I admit I have only used the
tools provided by the operating system vendors. solaris is the
absolute worst in out-of-the-box management tools in my experience,
even their management console is a piece of shit :(

HPUX has the nicest one(sam), AIX's is really good too though not
as pretty(smit), I don't remember what tru64's was but I think I
had a good experience with it. IRIX seems to be pretty good too,
though it seems to be much more geared towards workstations/desktop
users. SuSE's YaST2 is extremely impressive, webmin is halfway
decent(I only use it for mysql stuff). Of course it's useful
when a management tool has a text-mode option as well as a
X option, at least sam(I think), and smit run fine in text mode
(good for serial consoles and stuff). YaST2 runs in text mode too
though with greatly reduced functionality(many modules are not
available).

looking for insight..

nate





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