On Sat, 2003-02-15 at 15:45, Bret Hughes wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 14:31, Gordon wrote:
> > Bill Anderson wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 09:43, Ted Gervais wrote:
> > > 
> > >>On Monday 10 February 2003 10:03 am, Rechenberg, Andrew wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>I would have to agree with Robert here.  The best way to study for the
> > >>>RHCE is just work with Red Hat Linux everyday and think of things to
> > >>>break and then fix them.
> > >>>
> > >>>I've been using Red Hat since 1998 and took my RHCE in late 2001 on
> > >>>RH7.2 and I found that my everyday use of Linux helped more than any
> > >>>written material that I looked through before the exam.  If you have
> > >>>been working with Red Hat and/or Linux for a while, the RH300 Rapid
> > >>>Track course is excellent and is good exam preparation if you or your
> > >>>employer can afford it (no I don't work for Red Hat ... yet ;) ).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Thanks Andy for offering your thoughts on getting ready for the RHCE. And if 
> > >>particular mentioning the RH300 Rapid Trace course.
> > >>
> > >>I think that most of us here on the RH list work daily with our systems but 
> > >>don't try and break and solve things. That is a good point, and something I 
> > >>am going to try and do more.  Mind you, I normally break a lot of things 
> > >>without meaning to break them, and than I sit in grief for about a week 
> > >>trying to fix it.  But, your point is well taken.  If you can fix it, than I 
> > >>bet that RHCE exam will seem a bit easier..
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Just a side note:
> > > You can use either User-Mode Linux of VMWare to provide yourself with
> > > "breakable" boxen. Fixing broken things is "must-have-xp (experience)".
> > > 
> > > Like I tell my students ...
> > > "In the old days, there was plenty of opportunity to get 'experience',
> > > and that's how we learned. Nowadays, things are so much more stable
> > > and/or documented that it takes additional effort." 
> > > 
> > > :^)
> > > 
> > > I've been thinking about making a nice list of things to break, making a
> > > program to manage it, and then provide random breakages to help get
> > > fix-it experience. In my copious spare time, of course. ;^)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > I took the RHCE exam in 2000 and passed it without taking any of the 
> > classes. I had been playing with linux and Redhat for several years. 
> > I'll be retaking it next month in Raleigh.
> > 
> > Speaking of vmware. It would be nice to come up with a library of 
> > "broken" images that people could download and try to fix. Of course, 
> > they'd have to be seriously stripped down because few people would want 
> > to download a several hundred meg file just to figure out how to get 
> > into a system without a password file or something like that! I've got 
> > vmware so I could see how small of an image I could come up with.
> > 
> > Gordon
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> HOw bout scripts that will break a standard distro?  be a lot easier to
> download.
> 
> Bret

Actually, during the RH133 and RH253 classes that I attended we
installed a RPM that contained sample labs to break the system. 

However, they are not publically avail.  =\
-- 
Caleb Groom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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