Here's the answer to my original question, which raises 
a couple of other issues - what's the most elegant workaround,
and should there be a fix?

Does anybody from RedHat read this list?

David Baird

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leonard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Garbled Man Pages in Red Hat Linux 8


> You're welcome.  I've seen the question on several other lists also.   
> 1.  It could probably be added to /etc/bashrc or /etc/profile.  I didn't
> use those files because I only have a couple of users on the machine.
> 
> 2. My guess is it would have to be brought to Redhat's attention.  I
> haven't told them and I don't know if anybody else has either. 
> 
> Leonard
> 
> >>> "David & Kate Baird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/19/03 06:31 AM
> >>>
> Thank you.  In my case locale (unsurprisingly) produced "en_GB.UTF8". 
> $LANG
> was exactly the same (including the .UTF8) and $LC_ALL was undefined.  I
> set
> them both to en_GB via .bashrc and this seems to fix the problem (in
> fact
> just setting $LC_ALL to en_GB sorted it, although en_GB.UTF8 didn't
> work)..
> 
> 2 further questions:
> 
> - How can I get these environment variables set correctly for all users
> without having to alter every .bashrc?
> 
> - Since I've done a pretty vanilla build and others obviously have the
> same
> problem, is there a fix needed to something, and if so who needs to
> know?
> 
> David Baird
> 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leonard Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Garbled Man Pages in Red Hat Linux 8


> At the prompt type "locale".  Odds are there is a .UTF8 at the end of
> whatever will be displayed.  Take everything before the .UTF8 and add
> the following to you .bashrc file.
> If "locale" produced "en_US.UTF8", then add "en_US"
> 
> export LANG=en_US
> export LC_ALL=en_US
> 
> Logout and log back in, it should fix it.
> 
> Leonard
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/18/03 08:15 AM >>>
> I've installed Red Hat Linux 8 on a Compaq PC from scratch.  I use the
> KDE
> desktop (I haven't got Gnome installed at all), and I've selected the
> Windows Look and Feel using the desktop
> 
> My problem is that most Man pages (e.g. man iptables) don't display
> properly
> in a terminal window.  Hyphens and possibly other characters display as
> empty squares.  This also happens if I run a terminal window using PuTTY
> via
> SSL from a Windows client over the network.  It doesn't happen with a
> non-graphical interface at RunLevel 3, and it didn't happen at all
> before I
> upgraded from RHL 7.2 to 8.0.
> 
> I've applied all the available patches using Up2date, and the problem is
> still there.  I've also seen it on a completely separate system
> elsewhere,
> again with RHL 8 on a PC server with a network terminal session from a
> Windows PC running PuTTY.  I don't know what desktop was in use on that
> server.
> 
> This seems a fairly basic problem, annoying rather than critical, but of
> course you never know what it may conceal.  Any solutions?
> 
> David Baird
> Manchester
> UK



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