Reading this response reminds me why (one of the reasons) I started using
Postfix,
I support about 200 users, all via IMAP/WebMail.  Lots of server space is
used by the old e-mail, but performance is still good...when using maildir/
Of course one machine is the SMTP/IMAP and the other is the intranet server
+ e-mail access.  I think the e-mail server is only a 500Mhz + 256MB.  I get
filtering from the Postfix RBL code, and no virus scanner (is there a free
one that will plug in good to Postfix?)  FWIW The loadavg on the machine is
like .70, and nobody complains.  How many messages a day?  I subscribe to
this list, and a few others...that comes in this mail server, plus daily
business mail/jokes/spam that my users get.  Maybe I'll benchmark one day.

/B


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Messmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:33
Subject: Re: sizing server for sendmail & mailscanner


> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 08:25, Roger Schmeits wrote:
> > How much horsepower do I need for scanning 5000 emails a day?
> > Using sendmail & mailscanner.
>
> On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:35, Roger Schmeits wrote:
> > We have about 150 faculty members with 600 student accounts and are
> > looking to and 3000 alumni members accounts in the spring (eeek!).
>
> Well, we are supporting only about 1000 users with sendmail and
> spamassassin (run via spamc) alone (no virus scanning, that is) on a
> dual 1Ghz P3 system with 2GB of RAM.  Performance is awful, and the load
> is around 30 most of the day.  Spamassassin really isn't to blame
> either, performance was basically this bad before it was introduced.
>
> The problem is largely in that sendmail uses mbox files, and a couple of
> users leave mail on the server though they're told not to, and they eat
> all of the disk bandwidth (every mail check reads and then re-writes
> their entire mail spool).
>
> Just wanted to illustrate that performance bottlenecks aren't always
> where you expect them...  Your setup will need to be tested by you. :)
>
> We're moving on to a scalable email system built like so:
> 1.8Ghz Xeon / 1GiB RAM / 1TiB disk for /home
> - Server provides NFS service
>
> Cluster of initially 2:
> 800 Mhz P3 / 500 MiB RAM / 20 GiB disk
> - Courier SMTP
> - Courier IMAP
> - Courier POP
> - Apache
> - Courier Webmail
> - Spamassassin
> - OpenAntiVirus virus scanner
> - mounts /home from NFS server
>
> The CPU in the NFS server is way more than it needs, and the disk in the
> clustered machines is greater than their needs, but both of those were
> the smallest options available.
>
> The clustered boxes operate in DNS round-robin fashion for basic load
> balancing, and are configured identically except for their IP addresses
> and hostnames.  The cluster should be linearly scalable, so performance
> can be dealt with by adding additional machines to that cluster.
>
> The whole thing takes less than a day to set up.  NFS is available on a
> standard Server install of RHL, but I use this kickstart file instead:
> http://rh-install.prognet.com/kickstart/ks-73-default.cfg
> Set up the NFS share and LDAP or NIS access (in my case, already
> provided on other machines) on that server and it's done.
>
> The clusters are similar.  Used the above kickstart to install the OS,
> and then used apt-get to install the rest of the packages from here:
> http://www.dragonsdawn.net/apt/redhat/7.3/en/i386/RPMS.dragonsdawn/
>
> So, installing that software took:
> apt-get install courier courier-imapd courier-maildrop courier-smtpauth
> courier-webmail apache ScannerDaemon amavis-courier spamassassin
>
> Configure the cluster box for LDAP or NIS access, mount /home from the
> NFS server, and configure the domains that you want to receive mail for
> and this is also basically done.
>
> Moving forward, I'm working on getting amavisd to work with Courier so
> that virus scanning will require less overhead.  Some virus scanners
> work with courier directly, and don't require the amavis component at
> all.
>
>
>
>
>
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