Michael,
  Thanks for the help.  I followed your suggestions for finding and
killing the up2date processes and removing the locks in /var/lib/rpm. 
I thought I would first try to run up2date again.  So I went to the
console and logged out and logged back in as root; brought up a
terminal window and ran 'up2date' from the command line so that I could
see any errors that emitted.  First rerun I clicked on 'View Advisory'
- bad idea, hung the window again and threw and error to the term
window:
Xlib:  extension "RENDER" missing on display ":1.0".
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/rhn/up2date_client/gui.py", line 954, in
showAdvisory
    advisories = rhnErrata.getAdvisoryInfo(rowData[1])
TypeError: unsubscriptable object

So killed the window and reran up2date again.  This time skipped the
'View Advisory', and I again selected everything. The whole thing ran
through perfectly.  I did get one error thrown to the term window that
didn't look too serious:
Cannot stat file: /usr/share/gnome/help/glade-2/C/faq.xml : No such
file or directory
Maybe someone forgot a file in this package.

So now I'm going to try a reboot and see what happens.  So far so good.
 

Thanks again,
Gerry Reno



--- Michael Fratoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Sunday 29 December 2002 10:04 pm, grenoml wrote:
> > I installed RH8 recently on a new machine and just ran up2date for
> the
> > first time and selected everything for update (including kernel
> items).
> >  It prompted me for the root password and then took a while but all
> the
> > packages were downloaded and then repackaged and then it said
> > 'installing /var/spool/up2date/kernel2.4.18-19.8.0.athlon.rpm' and
> the
> > little watch came up and that's all she wrote... the install window
> > went completely dead (no window refreshes - nothin').  So I looked
> in
> > /var/log/messages and found this:
> > ----------------------
> > Dec 29 19:22:35 tltdev01-lin01 userhelper: pam_timestamp: timestamp
> > file `/var/run/sudo/greno/unknown:root' is too old, disallowing
> access
> > to up2date for UID 500
> > Dec 29 19:31:14 tltdev01-lin01 userhelper: pam_timestamp: timestamp
> > file `/var/run/sudo/greno/unknown:root' is too old, disallowing
> access
> > to up2date for UID 500
> > Dec 29 21:20:57 tltdev01-lin01 sshd(pam_unix)[30904]: session
> opened
> > for user greno by (uid=500)
> > ----------------------
> >
> > So I need a little help here.
> >
> > What state is my system in.  I have not rebooted because I'm afraid
> it
> > might not come back up since it was dealing with a kernel update.
> 
> There are some known issues with rpm hanging, leaving the database in
> an 
> unusable state, see below.
> 
> > What should I do to correct the 'too old' problem in the message
> log.
> 
> This is normal. If the timestamp is too old, you are prompted for the
> root 
> password. If it is recent enough, (less than 5 min) access is allowed
> 
> without the password.
> 
> > Can I just kill the install window and rerun up2date again?
> 
> You can, but you'll need to fix your rpm database after you do.
> Kill the up2date process. 
> ps ax | grep up2date 
> ps ax | grep rpm
> (Kill any instances of either)
> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
> (that's 2 underscores __db*)
> rpm --rebuilddb
> # rpm --rebuilddb will take several minutes to finish.
> 
> Try running up2date again. It won't download the packages again, it
> will 
> use the one's in /var/spool/up2date/.
> 
> At this point, you don't need up2date to finish, you can do it from
> the 
> command line. 
> cd /var/spool/up2date/
> # Install the kernel package.
> rpm -ivh kernel-2.4*.rpm
> # get the kernel package out of the way..
> mkdir kernel
> mv kernel-2.4*.rpm kernel/
> # or delete it, just get it out of the way.
> # Freshen the other packages.
> rpm -Fvh *.rpm
> 
> Hope that helps,
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