I think I agree with pretty much everything you’ve written here. I will note that your problem with sending email to the mailing list from a different address *is* one I’ve experienced, many hundreds of times.
I think your #1 and your #5 is more or less what blog.racket-lang.org is. I see Discourse as our best choice for #2. For chat, it sounds like most folks like IRC, Slack, or Discord. I’m not generally in that market, so I don’t think my opinions are worth much, there. I think there’s some hope that discourse might help out with #4, as well. Best, John > On Nov 22, 2021, at 16:05, Siddhartha Kasivajhula <[email protected]> wrote: > > That first email reads like a cross between a mathematical proof and some > kind of satire. Good stuff :) > > The broad communication needs seem to be: > > (1) a bulletin board / a channel for announcements > (2) a forum / a channel for discussions > (3) chat / a realtime channel. > (4) a knowledge base > (5) a broadcast / external-facing medium > > It sounds like the proposal here is to use Discourse for both (1) and (2). > All of the above become (4) if they are archived, but there is also the wiki > (which I didn't know about) and of course the website and docs. Anyone can > tweet @racketlang for (5), I guess. And we haven't really talked about (3) > yet. > > Some considerations people have brought up include: > > Noise: I agree that Discourse is likely to have more volume. As a result, > simply using it in mailing list mode isn't exactly a 1-to-1 replacement, > since the volume of emails would be higher, making it less appropriate for > announcements. It would be nice to be able to have more fine-grained controls > over which messages get emailed (e.g. in terms of category or activity). The > other (complementary, in my view) option is to use digest mode. In > traditional mailing lists we pick one or the other. In Discourse, it seems > that if you visit the site, it doesn't send you the digest for that day. It > would be nice if it could be configured to always send a digest, to actually > emulate mailing list behavior. Finally, I did notice that I wasn't able to > reply to a Discourse post from my phone. It looked like my phone email client > was using the default sender instead of the Discourse-specific one. I don't > recall that happening in similar situations before, but it's entirely > possible that this is a problem with my email client. In any case, with these > improvements, I do think Discourse could be compelling as a replacement for > the mailing list for most people. > > Open source: I agree this is an important criterion (which is one reason > you'll find me on IRC rather than Discord or Slack). Phil's point that Google > Groups isn't open source while Discourse is, seems a compelling argument for > Discourse here. > > Terms of service: Can't believe I signed my rights away to company_name > without even reading applicable_laws in jurisdiction_here. > > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:19 AM Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > Mozilla's notes on their own instance summarizes an email-exclusive > workflow well. > > https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/how-do-i-use-discourse-via-email/15279 > > On 11/22/21 12:16 PM, 'John Clements' via Racket Users wrote: > > Yes, I believe that replies by email are currently enabled. Here, let me > > test that. > > > > … > > > > Oh, yeah… can’t do that, the incoming email address isn’t the one that I > > send from. Sigh. Perhaps someone else can try this? > > > > One thing that I know isn’t set up yet is starting a new topic by email. I > > know it’s possible, but somebody needs to read the docs and check what’s > > required in order to set it up. > > > > John > > > >> On Nov 22, 2021, at 11:56, Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Y'all are configuring Discourse to allow replies by emails too, right? > >> > >> On 11/22/21 11:00 AM, J. Ryan Stinnett wrote: > >>> On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 at 15:25, Martin Weigele <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> A discourse type forum - we had this discussions in other contexts again > >>> and > >>> again - may be a better choice for persons who have the luxury they can > >>> concentrate on very few thingies. For all others, mailinglists are a much > >>> better choice, you can follow many developments in one place: your mail > >>> client, with a completely standard UI. > >>> > >>> Discourse has a mailing list mode each user can choose to enable which > >>> allows them to receive every post to their mail client, so you can > >>> continue to use your mail client workflow for following messages over > >>> there as well. > >>> > >>> - Ryan > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Racket Users" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >>> email to [email protected]. > >>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/CA%2B952WrzFB-FVWzn0%3DmES3kLd5XsU6gXqG8Vi8gij7Fz0J_Qgw%40mail.gmail.com. > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Racket Users" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/37a16e37-a38f-906f-3f7a-4c008e5a0a76%40sagegerard.com. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Racket Users" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/df2d0a47-804e-4275-a4b3-dbfd2116a702%40mtasv.net. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/afb88687-458a-2516-9f1e-2fef2dfa39d7%40sagegerard.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Racket Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/racket-users/CACQBWFmvAoMReGB7%2BZJd-XwXyBtOkbApT1YMhP0eb33cZYt8Fw%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Racket Users" group. 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