To be clear:

"/opt/Racket/Racket 8.1" is the system racket which the unprivileged user 
cannot write.
"/opt/Racket/Packages/8.1" is a unprivileged-writable directory intended for 
use as a package destination.

Nate

> On May 20, 2021, at 3:55 AM, Nathaniel W Griswold <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Oh, and i'll just duplicate the issue here for Matthew / the Racket side 
> since it could just be racket related:
> 
> The errors i ran into are when using a custom PLTCONFIGDIR with this 
> config.rktd:
> 
> ---
> #hash((build-stamp . "")
>      (catalogs
>       .
>       ("https://download.racket-lang.org/releases/8.1/catalog/"; #f))
>      (default-scope . "installation")
>      (doc-dir . "/opt/Racket/Packages/8.1/doc")
>      (doc-search-dirs . (#f "/opt/Racket/Racket 8.1/doc"))
>      (doc-search-url
>       .
>       
> "https://download.racket-lang.org/releases/8.1/doc/local-redirect/index.html";)
>      (links-file . "/opt/Racket/Packages/8.1/links.rktd")
>      (links-search-files . (#f "/opt/Racket/Racket 8.1/share/links.rktd"))
>      (pkgs-dir . "/opt/Racket/Packages/8.1/pkgs")
>      (pkgs-search-dirs . (#f "/opt/Racket/Racket 8.1/share/pkgs")))
> ---
> 
> The files that `raco pkg install` as an unprivileged user ends up trying to 
> delete are:
> 
> open-output-file: error deleting file
>  path: /opt/Racket/Racket 8.1/share/shares.rktd
>  system error: Permission denied; errno=13
> 
> open-output-file: error deleting file
>  path: /opt/Racket/Racket 8.1/lib/launchers.rktd
>  system error: Permission denied; errno=13
> 
> 
> Is this expected behavior?
> 
> Nate
> 
> 
>> On May 20, 2021, at 3:48 AM, Nathaniel W Griswold <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sam,
>> 
>> Yes, the tool and PLTCONFIGDIR help me better control things. I think the 
>> tool is helpful. I ran into a problem with racket trying to delete files and 
>> posted it on github at https://github.com/samdphillips/raco-pkg-env/issues/3
>> 
>> I don't think it's really a raco-pkg-env issue, though, i guess it wouldbe 
>> more of a racket issue if it is a problem and not a mistake on my part.
>> 
>> Nate
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2021, at 12:06 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You might also be interested in the new `raco-pkg-env` tool:
>>> https://github.com/samdphillips/raco-pkg-env/
>>> 
>>> Sam
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 12:20 PM Matthew Flatt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, this approach can work. I don't think the existing Racket tools
>>>> will help much with persisting a configuration across versions, though,
>>>> so you'd probably have to script that.
>>>> 
>>>> One potential drawback of your approach is that executables,
>>>> documentation, etc., associated with the extra package will get
>>>> rendered into the main installation area instead of the "/opt/Racket"
>>>> are. That may be fine for your purposes, but a more strictly layered
>>>> installation is meant to be possible. It turns out that some pieces
>>>> have been missing for layering, and fixing that is an area of current
>>>> work (https://github.com/racket/racket/commit/dfbb7040a).
>>>> 
>>>> At Sun, 16 May 2021 23:43:52 -0500, Nathaniel W Griswold wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was setting up Racket on my linux box and i realized that there are a 
>>>>> lot of
>>>>> options for path configuration and i forgot a lot of what i discovered 
>>>>> last
>>>>> time i dug into this. I was trying to set up installation scope but maybe 
>>>>> a
>>>>> little cleanly and figured someone might have some input.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I want a package at roughly installation scope, but i kinda wanted to 
>>>>> know what
>>>>> was added by me and what was part of the default installation. Is this
>>>>> reasonable or should i just deal with it and dump stuff in 
>>>>> $RACKET/share/pkgs?
>>>>> If it is reasonable then what is the best way to set this up?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just FYI I did an in-place install of Racket in "/opt/Racket/Racket\ 8.1"
>>>>> symlinked to /opt/Racket...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think maybe what i want is to set  to something like
>>>>> 
>>>>> (in /opt/Racket/etc/config.rktd)
>>>>> 
>>>>> #hash(... (pkgs-search-dirs . "/opt/Racket 8.1/share/pkgs-system" #f)
>>>>> (links-search-files . ("/opt/Racket/share/pkgs-system/links.rktd" #f)) 
>>>>> ...)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then i just did a `sudo /opt/Racket/bin/raco pkg install --scope-dir
>>>>> /opt/Racket/share/pkgs-system rash`
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... and the new package seems to be working fine for my users.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is that what i wanted or is there something better? Is there a way to 
>>>>> configure
>>>>> config.rktd additions that will persist across upgrades or will i have to
>>>>> update my config.rktd for every racket release? Do other people do this 
>>>>> kind of
>>>>> thing or just dump stuff in the installation scope? Maybe there are more
>>>>> options with a unix-style install, i haven't really tried one yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nate
>>>> 
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