On Jun 17, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Worik R wrote:

If it were not for the fact that I get inconsistent results I would be sure
that I need...

I have not yet seen a proper challenge to your original assumption that the t-statistic should be the same as the p-value. They go in _opposite_ directions, so the fact that in one comparison they happen to be equal is either an unlikely random occurrence (or perhaps the intended consequence of a devious statistics instructor testing your knowledge of the basics.) P-values are bounded on the interval [0-1] while t-statistics have possible range [-Inf,Inf]


2*pt(stat, df)

Section 8.1 of R-intro.pdf is explicit.

Problem is it gives inconsistent results

It? "Inconsistent"? The impersonal pronoun should be strongly disparaged in technical discourse in my opinion.

--
David.


Worik

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Worik R <wor...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have two pairs of related vectors
x1,y1

and

x2,y2

I wish to do a test for differences in means of x1 and y1, ditto x2 and y2.

I am getting odd results

 I am not sure I am using 'pt' properly...

I have not included the raw vectors as they are long. I am interested if I
am using R properly...

c(length(x1), length(y1), length(x2), length(y2))
[1] 3436 1619 2677 2378


First where the T-stat and the DF do not give the same result as 't.test'
when passed into 'pt'

t.1 <- t.test(x1, y1)
2 * pt(t.1$statistic, t.1$parameter)
      t
1.353946
t.1$p.value
[1] 0.646054

I would have thought these would have been the same.  Like below....

t.2 <- t.test(x2, y2)
2 * pt(t.2$statistic, t.2$parameter)
       t
0.8679732
t.2$p.value
[1] 0.8679732

This is what I expect.

clearly I misunderstand some thing.  What is it?

cheers
Worik


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