Thanks a lot for the help. I am quite new to R and every bit of
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El 21/05/2010 17:05, ONKELINX, Thierry [via R] escribió:
Have a look at ?varClasses. You could you something like
varIdent(form =
  
~ 1|areatrai) or varExp(form = ~areatrai)
  
  
R-sig-mixed-models is a better list for this kind of questions.
  
  
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> Onderwerp: [R] lme: model variance and error by group
  
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> Hello
  
> I am trying to reproduce a mixed regression model published 
> in (J Evol Biol 12:94-102) with PASW 17.03. The authors used 
> SAS to fit the model using the following syntaxis:
  
> 
> proc mixed nobound;
  
> class area individ trait;
  
> model a = side trait area side*trait side*area 
> trait*area/ddfm = satterthwaite solution; random intercept 
> side/subject = individ group = areatrai; repeated/local = 
> quad(areatrai) subject = individ; run;
  
> 
> The model specifies separate variance components and error 
> variances for the grouping "areatrai" variable. This is
  
> indicated by "group= areatrai"
  
> and "local =
  
> quad (areatrai)", respectively.
  
> 
> Since I currently have no access to SAS and this part of the 
> analysis is absolutely central to my research, I would be 
> very grateful if someone can tell whether it is possible to 
> model the variance and error by group using lme or any other 
> R package for linear mixed models. 
> 
> Any help will be much appreciated.
  
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