On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Stuart Andrews wrote:


Thanks Charles, for clarifying.

My statement holds for matrices, which are 2 dimensional. And, as you mentioned, a single index implies vector indexing where the drop argument doesn't make sense. I am somewhat relieved, given this new understanding.

But I am still puzzled as to why R doesn't complain about the unused "drop=F" argument. Since this argument is nonsensical, R should tell me this, no?

I take your point that user who was intending to type a vector subscript would not also bother to type 'drop=FALSE', and from the POV of the user typing "a[1:3,drop=F]" at the keyboard, it makes good sense to me to have R tip him/her off to a potential goof.

But subscripts get used a lot down deep in the code, so there are other considerations, I suspect. If you are interested in this from a 'code development' POV, you might repost to R-devel to ask what might have lead to this 'feature'. I have two guesses:

1) subscripting is a pretty low-level operation and checking for this particular case is not important enough to justify the added code and perhaps slowing things down.

2) a construction like

        do.call("[", c(list(x), args, list(drop = FALSE)))

will work without comment as long as the 'args' argument delivers a valid subscript or set of subscripts (valid for 'x') and the drop = FALSE will always be innocuous even if it is superfluous.


For example, when I add an unrecognized argument to the ls() function I get the following:

 ls(nonsense="42")
Error in ls(nonsense = "42") : unused argument(s) (nonsense = "42")

Priorities! Failure of argument matching is a critical error. Having a valid but superfluous argument is not, and there are loads of settings in which no error is raised like

y <- rnorm(3)
x <- 1:3
lm(y~x,data=list("blah"))

which arguably reveals a mistake by the user of the kind that having the unneeded 'drop=FALSE' suggested.

HTH,

Chuck


Cheers,
- Stu


On Apr 26, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Charles C. Berry wrote:

On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Stu wrote:

> Hi all,
> > One subtlety is that the drop argument only works if you specify 2 or
> more indices e.g. [i, j, ..., drop=F]; but not for a single index e.g
> [i, drop=F].

Wrong.

> a <- structure(1:5,dim=5)
> dim(a)
[1] 5
> dim(a[2:3,drop=F]) # don't drop regardless
[1] 2
> dim(a[2,drop=F]) # dont' drop regardless
[1] 1
> dim(a[2:3,drop=T]) # no extent of length 1
[1] 2
> dim(a[2,drop=T]) # drop, extent of length 1
NULL


> > Why doesn't R complain about the unused "drop=F" argument in the
> single index case?

In the example you give (one index for a two-dimension array), vector indexing is assumed. For vector indexing, drop is irrelevant.

HTH,

Chuck
> > Cheers,
> - Stu
> > a = matrix(1:10, nrow=1)
> b = matrix(10:1, ncol=1)
> > # a1 is an vector w/o dim attribute (i.e. drop=F is ignored silently)
> (a1 = a[2:5, drop=F])
> dim(a1)
> > # a2 is an vector WITH dim attribute: a row matrix (drop=F works)
> (a2 = a[, 2:5, drop=F])
> dim(a2)
> > # b1 is an vector w/o dim attribute (i.e. drop=F is ignored silently)
> (b1 = b[2:5, drop=F])
> dim(b1)
> > # b2 is an vector WITH dim attribute: a column matrix (drop=F works)
> (b2 = b[2:5, , drop=F])
> dim(b2)
> > > On Mar 30, 4:08 pm, lith <minil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Reframe the problem. Rethink why you need to keep dimensions. I never > > > ever had to use drop. > > > > The problem is that the type of the return value changes if you happen
> > to forget to use drop = FALSE, which can easily turn into a nightmare:
> > > > m <-matrix(1:20, ncol=4)
> > for (i in seq(3, 1, -1)) {
> >     print(class(m[1:i, ]))}
> > > > [1] "matrix"
> > [1] "matrix"
> > [1] "integer"
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