Bill Dunlap
Spotfire, TIBCO Software
wdunlap tibco.com 

 


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        From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.gal...@gmail.com] 
        Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:36 AM
        To: William Dunlap; istaz...@gmail.com
        Cc: r-help@r-project.org
        Subject: Re: [R] How to read.table with “Hebrew” column names (in R)?
        
        
        Hello William, Ista and other R-help members,

        The code you suggested:
        read.table("http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt",encoding="UTF-8"; 
,check.names=FALSE, header = T, sep = "\t")
        Works for me the same way it does for you: I can read the data in 
(finally!), but some of the ways for using it fails (such as the printing, and 
the attempt at including column names in "lm")

        So first thanks for the help!

        Second, could you please supply your  sessionInfo() ?
        I wonder how your locale is compared to that of Ista, since it looks as 
if for Ista there is no problem with the Hebrew.

I was on Windows XP (American/English edition, if that makes
any difference) using a precompiled copy of R 2.11.0 downloaded
from CRAN (the Simon Fraser mirror) and sessionInfo() and
i10n_info() say:

  > sessionInfo()
  R version 2.11.0 Under development (unstable) (2010-03-07 r51225) 
  i386-pc-mingw32 

  locale:
  [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 
  [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United States.1252   
  [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252
  [4] LC_NUMERIC=C                          
  [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252    

  attached base packages:
  [1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods   base     

  loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
  [1] tcltk_2.11.0
  > l10n_info()
  $MBCS
  [1] FALSE

  $`UTF-8`
  [1] FALSE
  
  $`Latin-1`
  [1] TRUE

  $codepage
  [1] 1252

I cannot set the locale to "Hebrew" (nor to "en_US" or
"en_US.utf8").
  > Sys.setlocale("LC_ALL", "Hebrew")
  [1] ""
  Warning message:
  In Sys.setlocale("LC_ALL", "Hebrew") :
    OS reports request to set locale to "Hebrew" cannot be honored

I'd like to learn more about the issue since we've had problems
reading UTF-8 encoded XML files and using the results in R on
Windows.

Bill Dunlap
Spotfire, TIBCO Software
wdunlap tibco.com 


        Thanks for helping!
        Tal




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        On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:42 AM, William Dunlap <wdun...@tibco.com> 
wrote:
        

                I tried this on R 2.11.0 unstable (2010-03-07 r51225) using
                encoding="UTF-8" and check.names=FALSE in read.table().
                It seemed to basically work, except that the data.frame/matrix 
printing
                routine wants to print the Unicode codes for the characters
                in the names:
                
                  > data1 <- read.table("http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt";,
                      header = TRUE, sep = "\t", encoding="UTF-8", 
check.names=FALSE)
                  > data1 # I see Unicode codes, presumably the correct ones
                    <U+05D0><U+05D7><U+05EA> 
<U+05E9><U+05EA><U+05D9><U+05D9><U+05DD>
                  1                       12                                    
   97
                  2                      123                                    
  354
                  3                        6                                    
    1
                    <U+05E9><U+05DC><U+05D5><U+05E9>
                  1                                6
                  2                               44
                  3                                3
                  > colnames(data1) # I see Hebrew strings (in R the first 
starts with aleph)
                  [1] "אחת"   "שתיים" "שלוש"
                  > colnames(data)[1]
                  [1] "אחת"
                  > strsplit(colnames(data)[1], "")[[1]][1]
                  [1] "א"
                  > data1[,"שתיים"]
                  [1]  97 354   1
                
                I'm writing this in Outlook in the English (American) locale
                and the copy-n-paste from the R gui window to the Outlook window
                of the Hebrew letters reversed the whole line of them (reversing
                the characters in each name and the names in the line), which I
                why I showed a subset of the names and a substring of the first 
name.
                
                However, when I try to use lm() with this data.frame then I run 
into
                trouble, which is probably the same problem as I see in the
                data.frame printing:
                
                  > lm(`שתיים` ~ `שלוש`)
                  Error: \uxxxx sequences not supported inside backticks (line 
1)
                
                Bill Dunlap
                Spotfire, TIBCO Software
                wdunlap tibco.com
                

                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: r-help-boun...@r-project.org
                > [mailto:r-help-boun...@r-project.org] On Behalf Of Tal Galili
                > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:41 PM
                > To: r-help@r-project.org
                > Subject: [R] How to read.table with “Hebrew” column names (in 
R)?
                >
                > (I am reposting this question after a few months without a
                > solution...)
                >
                >
                > Hi all,
                >
                > I am trying to read a .txt file, with Hebrew column names, 
but without
                > success.
                >
                > I uploaded an example file to: 
http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt
                >
                > And tried the command:
                >
                > read.table("http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt";, header =
                > T, sep = "\t")
                >
                > This returns me with:
                >
                
                >   X.....ª X...ª...... X...œ....
                
                > 1      12          97         6
                > 2     123         354        44
                > 3       6           1         3
                >
                > Instead of:
                >
                
                > × ×—×ª ×©×ª×™×™×    שלוש
                
                > 12  97  6
                > 123 354 44
                > 6   1   3
                >
                >
                >  Trying to use something like:
                >
                > read.table("http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt",fileEncodin
                > g ="iso8859-8")
                >
                > Has resulted in:
                >
                >  V1
                > 1  ?
                > Warning messages:
                > 1: In read.table("http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt";, 
fileEncoding
                > = "iso8859-8") :
                >
                >   invalid input found on input connection
                > 'http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt'
                > 2: In read.table("http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt";, 
fileEncoding
                > = "iso8859-8") :
                >
                >   incomplete final line found by readTableHeader on
                > 'http://www.talgalili.com/files/aa.txt'
                >
                > While also trying this:
                >
                > Sys.setlocale("LC_ALL", "en_US.UTF-8")
                >
                > Or this:
                >
                > Sys.setlocale("LC_ALL",
                
                > "en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8")
                >
                > Get's me this:
                >
                > [1] ""
                > Warning message:
                > In Sys.setlocale("LC_ALL", "en_US.UTF-8") :
                >
                >   OS reports request to set locale to "en_US.UTF-8" cannot be 
honored
                >
                >
                >
                > My output for:
                >
                > l10n_info()
                >
                > Is:
                >
                > $MBCS
                > [1] FALSE
                >
                > $`UTF-8`
                > [1] FALSE
                >
                > $`Latin-1`
                > [1] TRUE
                >
                > $codepage
                > [1] 1252
                >
                > And for:
                >
                > Sys.getlocale()
                >
                > Is:
                >
                > [1] "LC_COLLATE=English_United 
States.1252;LC_CTYPE=English_United
                > States.1252;LC_MONETARY=English_United
                > States.1252;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=English_United States.1252"
                >
                > Finally, here is the > sessionInfo()
                >
                > R version 2.10.1 (2009-12-14)
                >
                > i386-pc-mingw32
                >
                > locale:
                > [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1255  
LC_CTYPE=English_United
                > States.1252    LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 
LC_NUMERIC=C
                > [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
                >
                > attached base packages:
                > [1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods 
  base
                >
                > loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
                > [1] tools_2.10.1
                >
                >
                > Any suggestion or clarification will be appreciated.
                >
                >
                >
                > Best,
                >
                > Tal
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