Thank you Whit.

So you have experience with both R and Python ? How do they compare ?

Best,
Jean

2009/11/21 Whit Armstrong <armstrong.w...@gmail.com>

> We have been using pymc as an alternative to WinBUGS, and have been
> very pleased with it.  I've begun working on an R2Pymc package, but
> don't have anything ready for sharing yet.
>
> Here's the pymc page:
> http://code.google.com/p/pymc/
>
> and the repo is here:
> http://github.com/pymc-devs/pymc
>
> I've converted a few of the radon examples from Gelman's ARM book to
> pymc.  You can find them here:
> http://github.com/armstrtw/pymc_radon
>
> the original bugs examples are here:
> http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/arm/examples/radon/
>
> -Whit
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Jean Legeande <jean.legea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thank you Paul, Barry and Patrick.
> >
> > I will do what you recommand (the profiling).
> >
> > I have heard several times that for example Matlab would be faster than
> R...
> > This is why I thought of switching to Python, though it is also
> interpreted.
> > I thought it would be faster.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jean
> >
> > 2009/11/21 Patrick Burns <pbu...@pburns.seanet.com>
> >
> >> One little thing that I think Barry
> >> meant to say.
> >>
> >> If the bottleneck is in your code, you
> >> may be able to improve the situation
> >> enough by merely rewriting the R code
> >> of your function.  If that doesn't work,
> >> then you can move to C.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Patrick Burns
> >> patr...@burns-stat.com
> >> +44 (0)20 8525 0696
> >> http://www.burns-stat.com
> >> (home of "The R Inferno" and "A Guide for the Unwilling S User")
> >>
> >> Barry Rowlingson wrote:
> >>
> >>>  On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Jean Legeande <
> jean.legea...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear R users,
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to make my R code for MCMC faster. It is possible to
> >>>> integrate
> >>>> C code into R but I think C is too complicated for me. I would need a
> C
> >>>> introduction only for MCMC and I do not know if such a thing exists.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was thinking of Python (and scipy). Where could I read about its
> >>>> integration into R ? How developed are the statistical packages in
> Python
> >>>> ?
> >>>> I could not find a Python package on the web with functions to
> simulate
> >>>> Wishart, or multivariate gamma or student distributions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Since I am a little bit lost, I write this message to the R help list.
> >>>> Sorry
> >>>> for these naive questions and thanks for your help.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>  Have you done a profile of your MCMC code to see where the bottleneck
> >>> is? Without doing that first any effort could be a total waste of
> >>> time.
> >>>
> >>>  R can do a lot of it's calculations at the same level as C, so if 80%
> >>> of your time is spent inverting matrices then converting to Python or
> >>> C (or even assembly language) isn't going to help much since R's
> >>> matrix inversion is done using C code (and quite possibly very
> >>> optimised C code with maybe some assembly language too).
> >>>
> >>>  So do a profile (see ?Rprof) and work out the bottleneck. It might be
> >>> one of your functions, in which case just re-writing that in C and
> >>> linking to R (see programmers guide and a good C book) will do the
> >>> job.
> >>>
> >>>  My hunch is that Python and R run at about the same speed, and both
> >>> use C libraries for speedups (Python primarily via the numpy package).
> >>>
> >>>  You can call the GSL from Python, and there are probably tricks for
> >>> getting the distributions you want:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/help-...@gnu.org/msg00096.html
> >>>
> >>>  describes how to get samples from a Wishart.
> >>>
> >>>  However using the GSL from Python probably wont be much faster than
> >>> using R because again it's all at the C level already. Did I suggest
> >>> you profile your code?
> >>>
> >>> Barry
> >>>
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