I'm very sorry for all this, but still serene.

I'm (trying) to use R since may be 5 or 6 years now.
What I learned from this list is that you have to show some code to let others to help you out, a thing that Rnewbye did not in this particular case.

I had a look myself at the help pages and see that "something" was there that could help Rnewbye.
In particular

outlty, outlwd, outpch, outcex, outcol, outbg: outlier line
               type, line width, point character, point size expansion,
               color, and background color.  The default 'outlty=
               "blank"' suppresses the lines and 'outpch=NA' suppresses
               points.
My answer was somehow provocative, but I was ready to help, not to patronize (as many times I saw on this list).

I tried myself to change the appearance of the circles and other aspect of the plot, uncorrectly assuming that it could be extended to the problem of Rnewbye.

I surely made a mistake, and I apologize for this. This is is my only fault.

BUT PLEASE do not forget that if Rnewbye answered to my post (with a piece of code for example) I would have helped him. As I was always helped, harshly or not.

Ottorino

This is the sort of response that gives R-help a bad name.
I did not know that R-help had a bad name.
I myself received sometimes some harsh answers, but never lamented about.


Gabor Grothendieck ha scritto:
I agree its not completely obvious from that answer but that
does not mean the responder deserves to be attacked.

The circle part is actually the default and albeit with difficulty
the help files do give the info we need to produce this:

bp <- boxplot(c(1:50, 80, 100, 200), outpch = NA)
with(bp, points(group, out, pch = c(1, 1, 8)))

which can be suitably generalized for other situations.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Rolf Turner<r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
I despair.  ..........
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