On Jul 1, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Jonathan Greenberg wrote:

By the way, you'll probably have to reinstall some or all of your packages (and dependencies) if you are using R64.app, probably downgrading them in the process.

--j

This really ought to be on the r-sig-mac list. I am copying that list and follow-ups to any of these comments ought to trim the r-help address.

It is certainly true that packages will need to be reinstalled, but I am puzzled by the comment about "probably downgrading". My experience is that current versions of packages are almost always available on CRAN. The R.app 64 bit GUI provides for compiling from source and only a few packages fail to compile for the Mac OS X 10.5.x 64-bit architecture.

--
DW

Steve Ellis wrote:
Dear R-helpers,

I am running R version 2.9.1 on a Mac Quad with 32Gb of RAM running Mac OS X version 10.5.6. With over 20Gb of RAM "free" (according to the Activity Monitor) the following happens.

   > x <- matrix(rep(0, 6600^2), ncol = 6600)

   # So far so good.  But I need 3 matrices of this size.

   > y <- matrix(rep(0, 6600^2), ncol = 6600)
   R(3219) malloc: *** mmap(size=348483584) failed (error code=12)
   *** error: can't allocate region
   *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
   R(3219) malloc: *** mmap(size=348483584) failed (error code=12)
   *** error: can't allocate region
   *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
   Error: cannot allocate vector of size 332.3 Mb

Now a 6600 x 6600 matrix should take up less than 400Mb of RAM.

Correct. On a Mac:
x <- matrix(rep(0, 6600^2), ncol = 6600)
> object.size(x)
[1] 348480200

So the question is, with 20Gb of RAM free how come I can't create more than one matrix of this size?

I am unable to reproduce that problem with "only" 10GB installed.

(In fact, sometimes R won't even create one of them.) More to the point, is there some simple remedy? (Rewriting all my code to use the "Matrix" library, for example, is not a simple remedy.)

Some part of your installation is faulty. You should not need to use the 64 bit version to get those matrices created. Discuss further on the r-sig-mac list.



I tried launching R in a terminal with

   R --min-vsize=10M --max-vsize=5G --min-nsize=500k --max-nsize=900M

and that didn't work either. Finally, let me remark that I had the same problem with an older version of R.

 -- Steve Ellis

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David Winsemius, MD
Heritage Laboratories
West Hartford, CT

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