On 8/04/2009, at 1:27 PM, Ben Bolker wrote:

        <snip>

I agree that that the individual-level random effect is probably the issue.
I played with this some today but didn't manage to resolve it --
tried JAGS/R2jags and glmer from lme4 but didn't manage to
get an estimate of epsilon that matched the input value.  I'm
a little worried about binary data with an underlying random
effect, I think there's an identifiability problem there ...

        Oh dear.  This is getting hairier than I expected ... and a bit
        over my head.  The toy model proposed *looks* simple enough at
        first blush.  I would've thought that if a model which is that
        simple doesn't ``work'', then what hope is there for the more
        complicated models that one needs for analyzing real data?

                cheers,

                        Rolf

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