Barry Rowlingson wrote: > > 2009/2/3 Neil Shephard <nsheph...@gmail.com>: > >> Again I'd disagree, perhaps the most widely used suite of software has a >> very simple and clean web-site with few bells and whistles, ditto for one >> of >> the most popular text-editors. I am of course referring to the suite of >> GNU >> utilities (http://www.gnu.org/) that make a working GNU/Linux >> distribution >> and Emacs (http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ ). > > What?!? Surely the most widely-used suite of software is Microsoft > Windows, and that has a full-on bells, whistles, activeX, > silverlight-powered web site. >
My apologies I ommitted the 'open-source' caveat that Adam had written and I quoted in my response. Thus of all the _open-source_ software packages I have a strong suspicion that it is the GNU utilities that are the most widely used (since they are what makes up a funtional GNU/Linux installation, the Linux part simply refers to the code that forms the kernel and gets the hardware to communicate). Barry Rowlingson wrote: > > > I'd say there was a direct relationship > between website glossiness and amount of usage - more people use > Notepad than Emacs. In which direction the causality (if any) works is > an interesting question... > Notepad doesn't have a web-site! (If your assertion is true it is the perfect vindication of the EU taking M$ to court over bundling IE with their OS ;-) Theres probably also a relationship between the glossiness of a website (or indeed software) and its quality/functionality. Usage is all well and good, but if you get the wrong answers out it doesn't matter how many people use it, they'll all be wrong! (viz. using Excel for statistics). Its a fine balance. Barry Rowlingson wrote: > >> I like the R web-site, its clean and simple, present key information >> prominently (manuals, docs, CRAN, RNew and mailing lists). > > The open-source community should encourage contributions from beyond > the world of the coder -- graphic designers, translators, writers and > so on. Careful contributions from non-coders greatly enhance a > project. > > Certainly style should not triumph over content but help to express > the nature of the content. The R website still has a certain y2k feel > about it, and although I'm sure we'd agree it would be wrong to make > it all web 2.0 with rounded corners and a tag cloud, there's nothing > wrong with refreshing a brand every five or six years. > The issue of revamping the web-site arises regularly on this discussion list. A few people have said they're willing to help (in this thread and others in the past), but little has come to fruition. Refreshing branding can work two ways though, sometimes the identity and image that has been built up over time is lost. The developers of R have focused on what they are good at, which is developing R. I get the impression that they are willing to embrace graphic designers, translators, writers and so on (with some caveats on how it is to be managed as pointed out by Friedrich), but no one appears to have stepped up to the oche yet. Neil -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problems-in-Recommending-R-tp21783299p21810523.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
