JohnLi sent the following at 28/10/2008 19:56: > Thanks a lot ! I learn a lot about R while I solve my problem according to > those provided informatin.
Me too: thanks all. This particular question has suddenly become relevant to me as I'm trying to do a bit of simulating to model power for a repeated measures ANOVA and I'm caught away from my books and challenged by ageing brain. ... some snipped ... >>> Use package nlme, function lme. It might be a bit of an overkill for the >>> simple >>> case, but always worth the effort when things get more complex >>> >>> libary(nlme) >>> summary(lme(c~time, random=~1|subj,data=mydata) >> There is also anova.mlm: >> >> d <- read.table("clipboard", header=T) >> Y <- as.matrix(d) >> fit1 <- lm(Y~1) >> fit0 <- lm(Y~0) >> anova(fit0, fit1, X=~1, test="Spherical") >> anova(fit0, fit1, X=~1, test="Wilks") OK. Now my stupid question. I want to model a situation in which people are measured at three points on a scale and in the model I'm starting with a linear fall in scores with occasion. I can think of three ways to test this change: nlme for a mixed model, lm for a classical repeated measures ANOVA and anova.mlm for the MANOVA approach. So here's some of my code from within my simulation function: scores <- c(baseline,mid,end) ## simulated data lm.ID <- rep(1:size,3) occ <- rep(1:3,each=size) tmp.lme <- lme(scores ~ occ, random=~1|lm.ID) names(tmp.lme) nlme.coeff <- tmp.lme[4]$coefficients$fixed[2] tmp.sum <- summary(tmp.lme) nlme.p <- unlist(tmp.sum[19])[10] mlmfit <- lm(lm.scores ~ 1) mlmfit0 <- update(mlmfit, ~0) tmp.man <- anova(mlmfit,mlmfit0,X=~1,test="Wilks") manova.p <- tmp.man[8][2,1] Am I right that the above extracts the p value for the nlme test of the individual slopes of score against occasion and then the MANOVA test ... of no difference between occasions? How would I ask for a conventional univariate ANOVA repeated measures lm model and its test? Sorry, I know I should know but I don't and can't see it in ?lm, ?formula. TIA, Chris -- Chris Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Skype: chris-psyctc Professor of Psychotherapy, Nottingham University; Consultant Psychiatrist in Psychotherapy, Notts PDD network; Research Programmes Director, Nottinghamshire NHS Trust; *If I am writing from one of those roles, it will be clear. Otherwise* *my views are my own and not representative of those institutions * ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.