Hi, I am having problems trying to assess the significance of random terms in a generalized linear mixed model using lme4 package. The model describes bird species richness R along roads (offset by log length of road log_length) as a function of fixed effects Shrub (%shrub cover) and Width (width of road), and random effect Site (nested within Site Cluster).
>From reading answers to previous posts, it seems that the consensus is to derive p-values using the neat little piece of code posted by Doug Bates as "mcmcpvalue". This code calls the merMCMC object created by the function mcmcsamp, but I can't even get as far as using this function without running into difficulty. Basically, I get an error message saying "Error in .local(object, n, verbose, ...) : Update not yet written" - see below for complete code. Does anyone know why I am getting this error message and what if anything I can do to address the problem? I am aware that p-values derived via MCMC in this way can problematic when used with models that incorporate offsets. However, I get the same error message if I take the offset out of the model. The only way I can get mcmcsamp to run is to leave out the specification of the model as poisson. However, I'm pretty sure I don't want to do this. Provided someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong, and I am able to generate my MCMC sample, are there any work-arounds the problems people have encountered using mcmcpvalue on models with offsets? Could I control for the effect of road length on bird species richness by using residuals from the relationship between the R and log_length as my response variable? If not, then how can one estimate the significance values of random effects of lmer models with offsets? Very grateful for any suggestions, Mark > model<-lmer(R~Shrub+width+(1|Cluster/Site)+offset(log_length),family=poi sson) > summary(model) Generalized linear mixed model fit by the Laplace approximation Formula: R ~ Shrub + width + (1 | Cluster/Site) + offset(log_length) AIC BIC logLik deviance 59.76 70.56 -24.88 49.76 Random effects: Groups Name Variance Std.Dev. Site:Cluster (Intercept) 2.9878e-12 1.7285e-06 Cluster (Intercept) 0.0000e+00 0.0000e+00 Number of obs: 64, groups: Site:Cluster, 12; Cluster, 2 Fixed effects: Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|) (Intercept) -3.908504 0.198535 -19.687 < 2e-16 *** Shrub 0.016509 0.004355 3.791 0.000150 *** width -0.016435 0.009779 -1.681 0.092812 . --- Signif. codes: 0 '***' 0.001 '**' 0.01 '*' 0.05 '.' 0.1 ' ' 1 Correlation of Fixed Effects: (Intr) Shrub Shrub -0.040 width -0.881 -0.322 > samp<-mcmcsamp(model,50000) Error in .local(object, n, verbose, ...) : Update not yet written > ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.