On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, Bill Dunlap writes: > Crossword answers have to be drop-in replacements for the clue in a > sentence. Hence replacing > "She writes in C and R, say." > with > "She codes" > would work, but "She coder" would not. > > (If one interpreted C and R as the names of third party candidates for > office, then "She votes" would work, > but the across words made "codes" a more reasonable answer.) > > I was impressed that they expected the typical NYT reader to know that R > was a programming language. > > -Bill
They expect them to be long-time readers :-) https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/business-computing/07program.html > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 11:40 AM <avi.e.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Since this is a discussion about a specific crossword puzzle the right >> answer has to fit with any words coming in from the other direction or it >> gets cross. >> >> I thought the clue hinted it started with C and ended with R and that the >> languages were chosen for no reason other than that they helped make a >> clue. It would otherwise be equally valid to choose COBOL and RUST. This >> has nothing specific about R, or C, for that matter. Anyone who writes code >> for computers in any language can be called a CODER. >> >> But since CODES and CODER and many other words like PRINT may make sense, >> it still can be necessary to have it fit the crossword puzzle. Since it >> mentioned R and not it's cousin S, I think CODER is more likely the answer >> than CODES. >> >> Not that it changes our lives in the slightest way. I suspect people who >> are dedicated cruciverbalists need not know anything about the C and R >> languages or even programming in general. They are supposed to figure out >> it is an ODE between C and R. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: R-help <r-help-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of Olivier Crouzet >> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 9:51 AM >> To: r-help@r-project.org >> Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword >> >> Thank you all for the helpful and enlightening comments. One question >> though, isn't "say" a synonym in oral forms of american english for >> "for example"? Which would translate to: >> >> > Writes in C or R, [for example]. >> >> which would involve that C and R are possible examples of the usage >> contexts considered here in which someone would "write"? >> >> This would then make perfect sense to me for the proposed answer: >> "codes". >> >> Yours. >> Olivier. >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 >> 08:02:32 +0000 CALUM POLWART <polc1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Well to complicate things, I don't think RULES is the answer. >> > >> > This is a cryptic crossword clue. They usually contain the answer >> > twice (well... Cryptically!!) >> > >> > Writes in C or R, say. >> > >> > I think the answer is CODER >> > >> > If you look up the definition of say in the dictionary one option is: >> > >> > >> > >> > 1. give instructions to or direct somebody to do something with >> > authority (verb) >> > >> > >> > That's the simple part of the clue. (Notice the comma cryptic clues >> > have two parts giving the "same" answer) >> > >> > The more complex part I think is that and 'ode' (a poem that is >> > written like it is said or something) is written in between C and R >> > giving C ODE R, >> > >> > ... >> > >> > >> > Very happy to be corrected... >> > >> > >> > (Oh and as a third part a coder writes in C or R... I hope the >> > JavaScript kids are listening ;-) ) >> > >> > On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, 04:26 Ebert,Timothy Aaron, <teb...@ufl.edu> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > I do not understand the question and I do not understand the answer. >> > > Possibly one confounds the other. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: R-help <r-help-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin >> > > Hodgess Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2024 11:56 AM >> > > To: Bill Dunlap <williamwdun...@gmail.com> >> > > Cc: r-help@R-project.org >> > > Subject: Re: [R] [off-topic] crossword >> > > >> > > [External Email] >> > > >> > > RULES! >> > > >> > > >> > > Erin Hodgess, PhD >> > > mailto: erinm.hodg...@gmail.com >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 9:42 AM Bill Dunlap >> > > <williamwdun...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > The New York Times crossword this morning had the clue (51 down, 5 >> > > > letters) "Writes in C or R, say". >> > > > >> > > > -Bill >> > > > >> >> -- >> Olivier Crouzet, PhD >> http://olivier.ghostinthemachine.space >> /Maître de Conférences/ >> @LLING - Laboratoire de Linguistique de Nantes >> UMR6310 CNRS / Université de Nantes -- Enrico Schumann Lucerne, Switzerland http://enricoschumann.net ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide https://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.