On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Blume Christine wrote:

Dear Achim,

Many thanks indeed. Yes, I had thought about this too and, fortunately, the bootstrapping confirms the results from the "normal" test. However, I was wondering whether it is mathematically acceptable to report the pvals from bootstrapping, but non-bootstrapped correlation coefficients. Does someone have an opinion on this?

First, coin doesn't do bootstrapping tests, it does permutation tests.

Second, reporting the rho coefficient from the original sample is surely ok, no matter whether you used a bootstrap test, unconditional asymptotic test, or permutation test. At least I wouldn't see any reason, not to do so.

Best,
Z

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 13:56
An: Blume Christine <christine.bl...@sbg.ac.at>
Cc: Jim Lemon <drjimle...@gmail.com>; torsten.hoth...@uzh.ch; 
r-help@r-project.org
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Christine,

thanks for the example. As far as I can see, the "coin" package does not explicitly compute 
Spearman's rho. This is probably also the reason why it isn't reported in the test output. Thus, you would 
have to do this "by hand" using cor(..., method = "spearman").

Hope that helps,
Achim


On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Blume Christine wrote:

Dear Jim,



Many thanks for following up on this. Sure, I can provide a sample code. At the 
end of the code you see that I extract the p-value and the test statistic. 
However, I cannot find the correlation coefficient rho anywhere in the object 
“r”.



Best,

Christine



if(!require(pacman)) install.packages("pacman")

pacman::p_load(sn, fGarch, coin)



# Happiness

central_tendency_sim <- 0

dispersion_sim <- 1

skewness_sim <- 1.5



N_sim <- 10000



Happiness <- seq(from = 0,

              to = 10,

              length.out = N_sim)



# City size

central_tendency_sim <- 3

dispersion_sim <- 1

skewness_sim <- 1.5



Citysize <- seq(from = 1,

               to = 5,

               length.out = N_sim)



# create dataframe

datastat <- data.frame(Happiness, Citysize)



# Bootstrapped correlation

r <- spearman_test(Happiness ~ Citysize, data = datastat, distribution
= "approximate", alternative = c("two.sided"))

r

pvalue(r)

statistic(r)





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Von: Jim Lemon <drjimle...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. April 2020 05:53
An: Blume Christine <christine.bl...@sbg.ac.at>
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Betreff: Re: [R] Package 'coin' - How to extract rho



Hi Christine,

I noticed that your question did not receive a reply. As I don't know exactly 
what you have tried, it is a bit difficult to suggest a solution. If you are 
still unable to get this to work, could you provide an example of your present 
code and data if necessary?



Jim



On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:09 AM Blume Christine 
<christine.bl...@sbg.ac.at<mailto:christine.bl...@sbg.ac.at>> wrote:



I am using the 'coin' package to compute bootstrapped correlations. I am able 
to extract the p-value with confidence intervals as well as the test statistic 
Z. However, I am unable to find rho, i.e. the correlation coefficient. Can 
someone help?



Kind regards,

Christine





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