Thanks Roy -- I was about to write along the same lines. Best,
luke On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal via R-help wrote: > Hi Rolf: > > As they say, do read the posting guide: > >> Good manners: Remember that customs differ. Some people are very direct. >> Others surround everything they say with hedges and apologies. Be tolerant. >> Rudeness is never warranted, but sometimes `read the manual’ is the >> appropriate response. Don’t waste time discussing such matters on the list. >> Ad hominem comments are absolutely out of place. > > > -Roy > > >> >> On Jul 24, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Rolf Turner <r.tur...@auckland.ac.nz> wrote: >> >> >> On 25/07/19 4:36 AM, Weiwen Ng, MPH wrote: >> >>> Here's one way to phrase your reply: >>> "I'd recommend you search Google. For example, the search string >>> "proprietary use GPL" produces one hit that's clearly relevant to you: >> >> <SNIP> >> >>> This method is more neutrally worded. It doesn't insult the original >>> poster. It doesn't assume the poster had bad intent. >>> Instead, you chose to phrase it thus: >>> "Your internet skills are pathetic. Search Google for "proprietary use gpl" >>> and the first hit is ... Note that there are (at least) three obvious >>> alternatives if there is any question in your case ... I think your >>> desperation to steal the hard work of the various R contributors seems >>> quite odious." >>> Think about the overall tone of your post. Consider also that someone who >>> agrees with you substantive argument said that your comments were "often >>> (almost always?) a bit rough about the edges." >> >> Yeah, but Jeff's rough-about-the-edges phrasing is much more colourful, and >> colourful is *GOOD*. There is far too much bland "Shhhh. We *mustn't* >> offend anybody" content in current discourse. Tell it like it is! Ripley >> into people! If the recipient can't take the heat, he or she should get out >> of the kitchen! >> >> See also fortunes::fortune(87). >> >> cheers, >> >> Rolf Turner >> >> P.S. Jeff makes a huge and extremely useful contribution to R-help. He >> gives generously of time and effort to solve beginners' problems. They >> should appreciate the time and effort and not whinge about being offended. >> >> R. T. >> >> -- >> Honorary Research Fellow >> Department of Statistics >> University of Auckland >> Phone: +64-9-373-7599 ext. 88276 >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > ********************** > "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. > Government or NOAA." > ********************** > Roy Mendelssohn > Supervisory Operations Research Analyst > NOAA/NMFS > Environmental Research Division > Southwest Fisheries Science Center > ***Note new street address*** > 110 McAllister Way > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > Phone: (831)-420-3666 > Fax: (831) 420-3980 > e-mail: roy.mendelss...@noaa.gov www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ > > "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." > "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" > "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr. > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > -- Luke Tierney Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386 Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017 Actuarial Science 241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tier...@uiowa.edu Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
