In fact I am using Crawley example to fit my data. I am running a lmer analysis for binary longitudinal (repeated measures) data. Basically, I have 12 plots, divided in 3 blocks, each block contain 4 plots. Plots were manipulate for fruits (F) and vegetation (V) that were either intact(I) or removed(R). Thus, the treatments are FIVI FIVR FRVI FRVR Within each plot I had 16 track plates. Track plates were checked monthly for presence or absence of paw prints. I am trying to fit lmer model track~fruit*vegetation*time*block in which fruit vegetation time are fixed effects and time is repeated measures and block is a random effect here is my code > model<-lmer(track~veget*fruit*time*(time|plate)*(1|block),family=binomial) > summary(model) Generalized linear mixed model fit by the Laplace approximation Formula: track ~ veget * fruit * time * (time | plate) * (1 | block) AIC BIC logLik deviance 933.9 994.5 -454.9 909.9 Random effects: Groups Name Variance Std.Dev. Corr plate (Intercept) 0.226747 0.47618 time 0.054497 0.23345 -1.000 block (Intercept) 0.615283 0.78440 Number of obs: 1152, groups: plate, 192; block, 3
Fixed effects: Estimate Std. Error z value Pr(>|z|) (Intercept) -1.68645 0.58718 -2.8721 0.00408 ** vegetremoved -1.39291 0.57742 -2.4123 0.01585 * fruitremoved -0.54486 0.53765 -1.0134 0.31086 time -0.02091 0.10118 -0.2067 0.83626 vegetremoved:fruitremoved 0.75130 0.86342 0.8701 0.38422 vegetremoved:time 0.38229 0.14695 2.6014 0.00928 ** fruitremoved:time 0.17012 0.14227 1.1958 0.23178 vegetremoved:fruitremoved:time -0.47526 0.22134 -2.1473 0.03177 * According to Crawley PQL is better for fitting binary data like this. So should I just stick Laplace or try to get the old Lme4? Also, if there is an interaction of vegetation vs fruit vs time, how can I know which months fruit had a significant effect? ============================= Ben Bolker wrote: > > <hpdutra <at> yahoo.com> writes: > >> > library(lme4) >> > model1<-lmer(y~trt+(week|ID),family=binomial,method="PQL") >> Error in match.arg(method, c("Laplace", "AGQ")) : >> 'arg' should be one of “Laplace”, “AGQ” >> > > What is your question? > Doug Bates warned a few weeks ago that the newer version > of lmer would no longer use PQL for GLMMs (he found that > it was unreliable, even as a starting method for Laplace fits). > I think you can still get the older version if you want > it, or you can use glmmPQL from the MASS package (glmmPQL > has some advantages anyway). > It might be better to forward further discussion to > r-sig-mixed. > > Ben Bolker > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Error%3A-cannot-use-PQL-when-using-lmer-tp18298149p18299437.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.