Thank you Frans. This is exactly the sort of nuance that I want to learn about.

--Chris

Frans Marcelissen wrote:
Hello Christopher and others
:
What cannot be stressed enough is: do not combine both packages, it
gives errors and incorrect results! I will show that below
--------------------------------------------------------
a<-data.frame(groep=1:4,v=1:40)
library(dplyr)
a %>% group_by(groep) %>% summarise(m=mean(v),n=n())
# groep     m     n
# <int> <dbl> <int>
# 1     1    19    10
# 2     2    20    10
# 3     3    21    10
# 4     4    22    10
# correct

library(plyr)
a %>% group_by(groep) %>% summarise(m=mean(v),n=n())

Error in n() : This function should not be called directly
# ???
a %>% group_by(groep) %>% summarise(m=mean(v))
# m
# 1 20.5
#incorrect!
--------------------------------------------------

So both n() and group_by from dplyr don't work after library(plyr)!

My advice is: do not use plyr. Unfortunately plyr has some functions
that are very important, and that are not in dplyr. For
instance: rbind.fill() (for combining the rows of two dataframes with
unequal columns). If you need this: do'nt library plyr, use plyr::rbind.fil

Until now I have the impression that it is also possible to library
dplyr after plyr, but it is better to remove plyr!

This is a serious problem that has been reported before, but not solved
(in dplyr 0.5.0 and plyr 1.8.4)

Frams

2016-09-15 16:09 GMT+02:00 Christopher W Ryan <cr...@binghamton.edu
<mailto:cr...@binghamton.edu>>:

    I've set myself the task of learning about these packages, and about
    tidy data concepts.

    What is the relationship between plyr and dplyr?  Does the latter
    replace the former (meaning I can concentrate on learning the latter)?
    Or is there ever a need to use functions from both (meaning I should
    learn both)?

    Thanks.

    --Chris Ryan

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