+1 On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwa...@me.com> wrote:
> Greetings all, > > On behalf of The R Foundation for Statistical Computing, this is an > announcement that, effective October 15, 2015, the Nabble online forums > will no longer be a supported vehicle for posting new threads and/or > replying to existing threads on R-Help. > > This decision was not made lightly and is the result of issues that have > developed over the past several years. These issues include: > > 1. The lack of any context for thread-replies in posts submitted via > Nabble. This compels readers to take extra time to click on a link in the > post and visit the Nabble web site to read the reply in context. Many > email-based R-Help users do not take the time to do this, and therefore do > not reply to Nabble-based posts. > > 2. The use of Nabble by a number of folks who have not subscribed to the R > email lists directly. Since subscriptions to the R email lists are required > for posting, these posts are held for moderation, which results in a > substantial increase in the workload of the **volunteer** list moderators. > The moderators must take additional time to log into the administrative web > site interfaces for the R lists to manually review, and approve or reject, > posts submitted via Nabble. > > 3. An increasing level of both publicly and privately expressed animosity > and frustration on the R lists towards Nabble-based posts because of the > above and related issues. > > Over the past several months, the R Foundation, in cooperation with > Nabble, has incrementally removed the ability of multiple Nabble archives > to post new threads on the R email lists, respond to existing threads, and > privately reply to authors via the Nabble web site. > > R-Help, because it is the highest volume of the R lists, is the last R > email list to undergo this transition. We are announcing the change two > weeks in advance to afford Nabble users the opportunity to directly > subscribe to and use the R email-based support lists in the manner > originally intended. > > Information on the various R email lists, including R-Help, is available > here: > > https://www.r-project.org/mail.html > > The existing relevant Nabble archives will become just that -- read only > and searchable archives -- as a valuable alternative to other R email list > archives that are available online. > > We wish to express our sincere thanks to Hugo Teixeira at Nabble for his > assistance over the past several months in this process. > > For those folks who prefer to use a web-based interface for R-related > support matters, as opposed to email-based interactions, StackOverflow, as > one example, provides such a vehicle at: > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/r > > For those who have general statistical support queries, as per the R > Posting Guide, StackExchange/Cross Validated at: > > http://stats.stackexchange.com > > provides a similar platform. > > The R Foundation does not support or endorse the above third-party > resources, but is simply mentioning them as popular, web-based alternatives > to the R email lists, which remain our recommended vehicles for focused > community support for R. > > Thank you, > > Marc Schwartz > On Behalf of the R Foundation for Statistical Computing > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide > http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > -- Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Yoda of Borg, we are. Futile, resistance is, yes. Assimilated, you will be. He's about as useful as a wax frying pan. 10 to the 12th power microphones = 1 Megaphone Maranatha! <>< John McKown [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
