On Jul 29, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Hidden Markov Model wrote:

> Alright, I think I understand what you guys are talking about. It is still
> not clear the relationship between R-help and Nabble since you guys haven't
> actually answered that. 

Nabble's relationship to Rhelp? Nabble is an ongoing annoyance to the regular 
users and to the list moderators. It's web display format deceives naive users 
(who usually fail to read the Posting Guide as they were directed)  into 
thinking everyone sees what they see, and so they often fail to maintain the 
context of the discussion. Many regular contributors simply ignore the content 
from Nabble-originated postings.

> Again, the best way to provide proper advice is to actually quote to portion
> of the website you are sending people to, i.e., "To post a message to all
> the list members, send email to r-help@r-project.org." 
> 
> But this still doesn't address the issue of why that is necessary in the
> first place. Indeed, when a post is made the user sees the following
> message, which seems to indicate that the method of posting doesn't actually
> matter: 
> 
> "This forum is an archive/gateway which will forward your post to the
> r-help@r-project.org mailing list".

Nabble lies. It is not an archive. I periodically get notices telling me that 
my old posts are going to be dropped. The real archive is: 
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/

Nabble does forward messages to Rhelp and if a message passes the spam filters 
and the human moderators, it gets posted. Nabble then strips off the footers 
from the returned messages.

If you want to complain about Nabble not living up to your expectations, you 
should contact them. We did not ask them to mirror Rhelp.

You are expected to know how to control your own mail-client. Expecting us to 
educate you on the basics of computer use is unreasonable.

> View this message in context: 
> http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Daily-Category-Revenue-Stacked-Bar-Chart-in-ggplot2-tp4710431p4710549.html
> 

R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

-- 
David Winsemius
Alameda, CA, USA

______________________________________________
R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see
https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

Reply via email to