> On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:54 PM, David Winsemius <dwinsem...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:13 PM, C W wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Thierry for the pointer, that's explains the problem.
>> 
>> Is there anything I can do about the matrix instability or numerical
>> inaccuracy?
> 
> There are matrix methods in the Rmpfr package that support increased 
> precision, but it is implemented with S4 methods. You would probably need to 
> retool the numDeriv functions to use the mpfrMatrix-class.


How much numerical precision do you need?  


How important is the difference between 4121204 and (4121204-5.494803e-08)?  


Spencer 

> 
> -- 
> david.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Thierry Onkelinx <thierry.onkel...@inbo.be
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Have a look at FAQ 7.31
>>> 
>>> ir. Thierry Onkelinx
>>> Instituut voor natuur- en bosonderzoek / Research Institute for Nature and
>>> 
>>> 2015-02-18 17:44 GMT+01:00 C W <tmrs...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ben and JS,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>> 
>>>> I tried using: hessian(func = h_x, x, method = "complex"), it gives zero,
>>>> that's good.
>>>> 
>>>> # R code
>>>> 
>>>>> hess.h <- hessian(func = h_x, x, method = "complex")
>>>> 
>>>>> mat <- h_x(x)*hess.h - grad(h_x, x) %o% grad(h_x, x)
>>>> 
>>>>> mat
>>>> 
>>>>       [,1]    [,2]     [,3]    [,4]
>>>> 
>>>> [1,] 2060602       0        0       0
>>>> 
>>>> [2,]       0 2060602        0       0
>>>> 
>>>> [3,]       0       0 -4039596 -816080
>>>> 
>>>> [4,]       0       0  -816080 4039596
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But later I do,
>>>> 
>>>>> eigen(mat)
>>>> 
>>>> $values
>>>> 
>>>> [1] -4121204  4121204  2060602  2060602
>>>> 
>>>> $vectors
>>>> 
>>>>           [,1]        [,2] [,3] [,4]
>>>> 
>>>> [1,]  0.00000000  0.00000000    1    0
>>>> 
>>>> [2,]  0.00000000  0.00000000    0    1
>>>> 
>>>> [3,] -0.99503719  0.09950372    0    0
>>>> 
>>>> [4,] -0.09950372 -0.99503719    0    0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> And here is the problem,
>>>> 
>>>>> eigen(mat)$values[2] == 4121204
>>>> 
>>>> [1] FALSE
>>>> 
>>>>> eigen(mat)$values[2] - 4121204
>>>> 
>>>> [1] -5.494803e-08
>>>> 
>>>> Why doesn't the second value equal to 412104?  How do I overcome that?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:13 AM, JS Huang <js.hu...@protective.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since all entries in your hessian matrix and grad vector are
>>>> integers, I
>>>>> suggest you execute the following for mat assignment.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> mat <- round(h_x(x),digits=0)*round(hess.h,digits=0) - round(grad(h_x,
>>>>>> x),digits=0) %o% round(grad(h_x, x),digits=0)
>>>>>> mat
>>>>>        [,1]     [,2]     [,3]     [,4]
>>>>> [1,]        0        0        0 -4080400
>>>>> [2,]        0  7920000        0 -1600000
>>>>> [3,]        0        0 12160400        0
>>>>> [4,] -4080400 -1600000        0 -7920000
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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