Hi all, I'm new to sem package and sem analyses, so this is probably very basic, although I was not able to solve it myself reading some other similar posts. I was trying to specify a structural equation model using a correlation matrix of three variables. The correlation matrix comes from a mixed model in which repeated measures of each variable were analysed as a function of some fixed and random effects. All the correlations are really high:
mirror novel shelter mirror 1.0000000 0.8360787 0.9107897 novel 0.8360787 1.0000000 0.8745305 shelter 0.9107897 0.8745305 1.0000000 I want to test two models using sem: 1. Independence model: the three variables are independent 2. Syndrome model: all the variables linked through a common latent variable So my code is: *# independence model* model.0=specifyModel() mirror<->mirror, e1, NA novel<->novel, e2, NA shelter<->shelter, e3, NA *# syndrome model; L represents the latent variable* model.1=specifyModel() L->mirror,a1,NA L->novel,a2,NA L->shelter,a3,NA L<->L,NA,1 mirror<->mirror,e1,NA novel<->novel,e2,NA shelter<->shelter,e3,NA *Sem function:* output0.b=sem(model.0,b,N=235) output1.b=sem(model.1,b,N=235) *And my outputs are:* > summary(output0.b) Model Chisquare = 761.9988 Df = 3 Pr(>Chisq) = 7.543238e-165 AIC = 767.9988 BIC = 745.62 Normalized Residuals Min. 1st Qu. Median Mean 3rd Qu. Max. 0.000 0.000 12.790 8.911 13.380 13.930 Parameter Estimates Estimate Std Error z value Pr(>|z|) e1 1 0.09245003 10.81665 2.870676e-27 mirror <--> mirror e2 1 0.09245003 10.81665 2.870676e-27 novel <--> novel e3 1 0.09245003 10.81665 2.870676e-27 shelter <--> shelter Iterations = 0 > summary(output1.b) Model Chisquare = 3.117506e-13 Df = 0 Pr(>Chisq) = NA AIC = 12 BIC = 3.117506e-13 Normalized Residuals Min. 1st Qu. Median Mean 3rd Qu. Max. 1.107e-07 1.627e-07 1.701e-07 1.696e-07 1.753e-07 2.457e-07 R-square for Endogenous Variables mirror novel shelter 0.8707 0.8028 0.9527 Parameter Estimates Estimate Std Error z value Pr(>|z|) a1 0.93313643 0.04964952 18.794470 8.381262e-79 mirror <--- L a2 0.89598763 0.05105094 17.550855 5.859107e-69 novel <--- L a3 0.97605200 0.04790520 20.374657 2.806748e-92 shelter <--- L e1 0.12925637 0.01801049 7.176726 7.140033e-13 mirror <--> mirror e2 0.19720615 0.02206224 8.938628 3.940334e-19 novel <--> novel e3 0.04732249 0.01537861 3.077164 2.089805e-03 shelter <--> shelter Iterations = 23 *My questions are:* 1) Are the models properly specyfied? I followed some examples in the literature, specifically Broomer et al., 2014 Behav Ecol, doi:10.1093/beheco/aru057 2) The outputs look pretty strange to me...first, all the paths seems (highly!) significant. But looking at the model fit, and which model fits the data better, I guess that the AIC value of the syndrome model is not correct, and that the Df=0...so I guess that particular model is not properly specified (unidentified model?). Also, in the independence model, all the Z values are the same (?) 3) I specifyied N=235 since the original data consist of 235 rows for one of the variables (5 repeated measures of 47 individuals). But for the two other variables, I only have 94 rows (2 repeated measures of the same 47 individuals). So I'm not sure which N I should specify in the sem model. Maybe something like N=c(94,94,235)? Or N=47 because in the end everything is based on 47 individuals? Any advise at this point would be greatly appreciated, I'm a bit at loss. David [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.