I just saw this comment and I agree with Peter. I have occasion to ask questions and get help on the R forum but I am not a programmer and use programs as I need them and I suppose I must comment more often. :)
On 11/25/14, 11:28 AM, "peter dalgaard" <pda...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On 24 Nov 2014, at 18:34 , Sarah Goslee <sarah.gos...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I took a look at apparent gender among list participants a few years >>ago: >> https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2011-June/280272.html >> >> Same general thing: very few regular participants on the list were >> women. I don't see any sign that that has changed in the last three >> years. The bar to participation in the R-help list is much, much lower >> than that to become a developer. >> >> It would be interesting to look at the stats for CRAN packages as well. >> >> The very low percentage of regular female participants is one of the >> things that keeps me active on this list: to demonstrate that it's not >> only men who use R and participate in the community. >> >> (If you decide to do the stats for 2014, be aware that I've been out >> on medical leave for the past two months, so the numbers are even >> lower than usual.) > > >...and very welcome back!!! (I did notice the chronicles on your blog). > >Re. the gender issue, it is certainly not that women aren't welcome, it's >more that they aren't there. There are various potential reasons that >come to mind, but it easily ends up in speculation and stereotyping. > >It is a bit of an embarrasment and people are discussing what to do about >it, but some of the countermeasures have a tendency to backfire, so we >need to be a little careful. > >- Peter D. > > >> >> Sarah >> >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Maarten Blaauw >> <maarten.bla...@qub.ac.uk> wrote: >>> Hi there, >>> >>> I can't help to notice that the gender balance among R developers and >>> ordinary members is extremely skewed (as it is with open source >>>software in >>> general). >>> >>> Have a look at http://www.r-project.org/foundation/memberlist.html - >>>at most >>> a handful of women are listed among the 'supporting members', and none >>>at >>> all among the 29 'ordinary members'. >>> >>> On the other hand I personally know many happy R users of both genders. >>> >>> My questions are thus: Should R developers (and users) be worried that >>>the >>> 'other half' is excluded? If so, how could female R users/developers be >>> persuaded to become more visible (e.g. added as supporting or ordinary >>> members)? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Maarten >>> >> -- >> Sarah Goslee >> http://www.functionaldiversity.org >> >> ______________________________________________ >> R-help@r-project.org mailing list >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >> PLEASE do read the posting guide >>http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. > >-- >Peter Dalgaard, Professor, >Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School >Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark >Phone: (+45)38153501 >Email: pd....@cbs.dk Priv: pda...@gmail.com > >______________________________________________ >R-help@r-project.org mailing list >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >PLEASE do read the posting guide >http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.