This has nothing to do with R per se.

You need to consult a local statistician and stop fooling with Internet forums.

Cheers.

Bert

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Stéph BELLEGO <ion...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We are trying to validate a new measurement method by comparing it to a 
> reference method, but we don't manage to find out how to do it...
>
> Here are the data we have :
>
> ***
> Sample# ; Ref_1 ; Ref_2 ; Ref_3 ; Ref_4 ; Ref_5 ; Ref_6 ; Ref_7 ; Ref_8 ; 
> Ref_9 ; Ref_10 ; New_1 ; New_2 ; New_3 ; New_4 ; New_5 ; New_6 ; New_7 ; 
> New_8 ; New_9 ; New_10
> 1 ; 58 ; 56 ; 60 ; 64 ; 76 ; 78 ; 73 ; 73 ; 83 ; 76 ; 61 ; 70 ; 61 ; 61 ; 54 
> ; 48 ; 60 ; 56 ; 82 ; 63
> 2 ; 46 ; 51 ; 48 ; 57 ; 61 ; 74 ; 54 ; 63 ; 60 ; 71 ; 77 ; 69 ; 53 ; 56 ; 58 
> ; 61 ; 64 ; 63 ; 57 ; 71
> 3 ; 60 ; 79 ; 68 ; 69 ; 70 ; 67 ; 68 ; 71 ; 66 ; 72 ; 76 ; 68 ; 53 ; 82 ; 40 
> ; 58 ; 51 ; 66 ; 87 ; 68
> 4 ; 67 ; 59 ; 52 ; 63 ; 61 ; 60 ; 57 ; 54 ; 61 ; 62 ; 71 ; 45 ; 66 ; 56 ; 55 
> ; 66 ; 56 ; 63 ; 56 ; 76
> 5 ; 100 ; 112 ; 89 ; 96 ; 111 ; 78 ; 91 ; 93 ; 96 ; 93 ; 92 ; 81 ; 82 ; 102 ; 
> 89 ; 82 ; 69 ; 68 ; 73 ; 98
> 6 ; 88 ; 77 ; 93 ; 81 ; 77 ; 70 ; 83 ; 67 ; 84 ; 94 ; 81 ; 80 ; 54 ; 101 ; 77 
> ; 91 ; 104 ; 66 ; 80 ; 92
> 7 ; 31 ; 48 ; 44 ; 33 ; 49 ; 47 ; 38 ; 33 ; 29 ; 39 ; 21 ; 40 ; 30 ; 27 ; 25 
> ; 29 ; 25 ; 21 ; 26 ; 37
> 8 ; 33 ; 40 ; 20 ; 31 ; 30 ; 28 ; 20 ; 25 ; 29 ; 34 ; 30 ; 32 ; 18 ; 32 ; 22 
> ; 28 ; 27 ; 35 ; 17 ; 28
> 9 ; 34 ; 31 ; 32 ; 37 ; 38 ; 26 ; 22 ; 40 ; 43 ; 23 ; 26 ; 37 ; 39 ; 33 ; 35 
> ; 41 ; 26 ; 27 ; 24 ; 36
> 10 ; 45 ; 47 ; 53 ; 49 ; 47 ; 62 ; 44 ; 55 ; 52 ; 50 ; 59 ; 32 ; 40 ; 43 ; 46 
> ; 56 ; 34 ; 38 ; 44 ; 56
> ***
>
> First line are headers.
> The 10 following lines refer to 10 independent samples.
> On each line, the first column is the sample number, the next 10 columns are 
> reps of measurements performed with the "reference method", and the 10 last 
> columns are reps of measurements performed with the "new method" we would 
> like to validate.
>
> Each of the 20 reps measurements are performed on distinct subsets of the 
> sample, so they're not supposed to be identical (in particular, Ref_i and 
> New_i are performed on different subsets)
>
> Let's come to our question : we would like to statistically validate the fact 
> that the new measurement method is "as good as" the older one. At the end, 
> what interests us is the average of the 10 measurements we perform. Ouf 
> course, there always are some differences between the averages obtained by 
> the reference and the new method, but we are convinced this difference is 
> actually "contained" within the "subseting" fluctuation.
>
> We've been told using a Bonferroni correction would be a good way to address 
> our problem, but despite reading quite a lot of documentation, we were unable 
> to find out how to implement it.
>
> All the examples we've seen apply Bonferroni correction to pairwise tests 
> between 2 vectors, can it actually be applied to a set of paired vectors as 
> in our data?
> Or should we just compare the averages of the reference and the new 
> measurement methods for each sample?
> Finally, will this test actually answer our question, or would be another 
> data treatment more appropriated?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help, it will be very appreciated since we're 
> running out of resources to solve our issue...
>
> Best regards,
> Stephanie
>
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